headlamp headlight info thread

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Howard

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Was trying to find this for the longest time - wanted to post it here for others' reference

tags: headlamp headlamps headlight headlights head lamp lamps light lights lighting bulb bulbs silverstar osram sylvania daniel stern hir hid halogen xenon hella projector projectors housing housings

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954736
 
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coxmaster

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Good read!

I LOVE my Osram Nightbreakers, they are significantly better than the Slyvania Silverstars
 

alkemyst

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I thnk H4 stockers (one of those types) are at John Deere locations for a buck or two. They are common to their tractors.

I use Navra bulbs in my cars.
 

fbrdphreak

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Good writeup. I purchased parts from and consulted Daniel Stern to fix the headlights on my 97 Legacy GT.

I bought the wiring harness kit and Osram bulbs from Daniel, totaling just under $100 IIRC. I bought a bunch of 10 gauge wire in preparation, which in retrospect was overkill but it worked.

The biggest roadblock to upgrading my headlight circuits for me was actually assembling the wires, headlamp sockets and relay wiring. Sure, I understood where to tap in and how the circuit should work, but physically assembling the stuff was a bit daunting. I had a bag full of parts I've never seen before and wanted to make sure I assembled them properly. Daniel provided a parts list of what goes where, which helped, and the rest was reading the book below & searching for pictures of assembled connectors so I could figure out how they were supposed to go.

This book helped a lot with the specifics of automotive wiring and troubleshooting: http://www.amazon.com/Automotive-Wir...2923695&sr=1-1

I already had a nice Klein wire stripper from my college days and added a Klein crimper & another quality cutter. These were probably a bit over $50. Cheap tools will certainly do for a one-off or small project, I just prefer to buy quality tools once when I know I will use them again.

The process was pretty straight forward, but my first attempt at firing it up failed. The various diagrams I had found outlining which pin was which for the headlight socket used differing names for common ground, common feed, etc and totally turned me upside down on which pins I needed to light up to trigger the low beam & high beam. I finally sorted this out and hooked the right inputs into the new headlight socket.

My problem was compounded when I found that the person who had previously repaired my car put in a pair of shitty headlight sockets, so just piggybacking off the sockets to trigger the relays wouldn't work. I also then found out that there is some problem with the wiring between the relay and the light for the driver's low beam, so I couldn't use THAT to trigger the low beams. I had to tap the wire from the passenger's side, which works fine, but it added more to my testing and diagnosis when the circuit wouldn't work.

Once the wiring tested good, I broke out the butane torch and closed up the heatshrink connections and taped elsewhere. I applied some plastic wiring loom everywhere I could for that nice clean look. The relay blocks were mounted on the inner fender in front of the battery, and the relays pop right out if I need to diagnose anything.

Overall it ended up being a huge improvement, fixed the driver's low beam that wasn't working, and was a great learning experience.

I'm happy to answer anyone's questions, as I literally came from knowing almost nothing about the process and how headlights work. But first, of course, read Daniel Stern's page on upgrading healights:

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/relays/relays.html
 

BassBomb

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"The only safe way of putting HID’s in your car is replacing the entire lighting housing to a housing that is made for HID’s."

Something I would like to reiterate, as being someone who did it the proper way
 

ivan2

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when i tried to search for navar on ebay I came across these:

search "Halogen Infrared Reflective HIR" on ebay. They claimed to be H7 HIR
 

T2urtle

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so where can i get Osram Silverstars in 9007.

google mainly shows syl silverstars which i have now but one of the high beams is out.

amazon lists H7 bulbs only. I really hate emailing a guy for bulbs. I just rather have a store that i can buy from anytime.
 

alkemyst

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they aren't set up for onesy-twosy orders. Decent if you are outfitting your entire vehicle.
 

alkemyst

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placed this order today....driver's headlight went out and I was already using a 'stock' bulb for one foglight that burned out last month.

H3 bulbs: Osram Night Breaker® +90 Ultra High Output 55w H3 Bulb 2 23.18
H3 bulbs: CPI Gold Selective Yellow H3 55w Bulb 2 11.17
Osram Night Breaker® +90 Ultra High Output 55w H1 Bulb — Twin Pack 1 42.18

for my wife:
Philips Xtreme Power 9006 55W / HB4 (TWO PACK) 1 39.33
9005 (HB3) Bulbs: Philips High Visability +30® High-Output 9005 (HB3) 65w Bulb 2 17.10

Subtotal 184.41
Shipping 9.00
Tax 0.00
Total 193.41

My wife doesn't need HIR's I am running HIR1's for my high beams. I also don't think her Saturn has the built in bulb covers HIR's require.

I am going to try the selective yellows, if I don't like them I am going back to the high-output H3's
 

Howard

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placed this order today....driver's headlight went out and I was already using a 'stock' bulb for one foglight that burned out last month.

H3 bulbs: Osram Night Breaker® +90 Ultra High Output 55w H3 Bulb 2 23.18
H3 bulbs: CPI Gold Selective Yellow H3 55w Bulb 2 11.17
Osram Night Breaker® +90 Ultra High Output 55w H1 Bulb — Twin Pack 1 42.18

for my wife:
Philips Xtreme Power 9006 55W / HB4 (TWO PACK) 1 39.33
9005 (HB3) Bulbs: Philips High Visability +30® High-Output 9005 (HB3) 65w Bulb 2 17.10

Subtotal 184.41
Shipping 9.00
Tax 0.00
Total 193.41

My wife doesn't need HIR's I am running HIR1's for my high beams. I also don't think her Saturn has the built in bulb covers HIR's require.

I am going to try the selective yellows, if I don't like them I am going back to the high-output H3's
What are you driving right now?
 

alfa147x

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How much more do the HIR bulbs cost vs OEM? any one have a estimate / guess ?
 
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