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HDTV Wonder questions

Bateluer

Lifer
Since I've been having so much trouble getting this card to actually function, I thought I'd make a post to confirm that I have the card set up correctly.

At present, I have the included HD antenna hooked up the coax DTV connector on the card. The antenna is positioned at the same level as the closest window, approximately 4 feet away. I could probably get this closer with a longer cable. There is nothing else plugged into the HDTV Wonder card. As I understand it, the ATI purple break out box is for connecting VCRs, DVD players, camcorders, etc to the Wonder card, which I don't own at this time. I have the latest drivers installed from ATI's site as of 12 April 05.

Prior to this morning, under the TV Tab of the MMC config, the only capture source listed was 'No Default' Every time I attempted to start the DTV player from the ATI MMC 9.06 launcher, I receieve the message 'Could Not Initialize TV'. The MMC's PC Check was useless, telling me everything passed without incident. This morning, I found an obscure piece of T/S information that was added to the Path variable under the Environmental Variables button of the System applet. This added the following to the Capture source drop down box: 'ATI DTV Wonder Analog AV Capture' However, the results are the same, could not initialize.

At present, I have Direct TV from Qwest. From their cable box, they is a coax cable that brings the TV signal to a TV, which I plugged into the CATV port on the Wonder card. Attempting to initialize the TV player also failed, with the same message. And again, the ATI PC Check was useless.

My system specs are as follows:

WinXP Pro SP2
Asus P4P800 Deluxe
Intel P4 3.4E
1GB Corsair DDR400
Gainward 6800 GT Golden Sample with Nvidia 71.84 reference drivers installed
1 WD 120GB hdd
2 Seagate 300GB hdds
Plextor 716A DVDRW
Plextor 504A DVDRW
Pioneer 16x DVDROM
Audigy LS sound card

Anyone have some insight on this? Most of what I've read point to the Nvidia based video card as the culprit, since I don't even get a blank TV window. Then I heard that people were running Nvidia based cards using the HDTV Wonder under Windows Media Center Edition 2005 without incident. Omedadrivers.net is supposed to have their drivers based off the 71.84 references very soon, I was going to give those a try.

Also, if I were to buy a copy of MCE 2005, would it still function more or less as XP Pro functions, playing all my games, software etc? And what else, if anything, would I have to purchase to get this card to work under MCE?

Any other insight as to how to get this card to function?

Lastly, the new driver revisions from ATI have resolved some earilier errors I was having, the could not find DX9 installed issue, the 'could not find valid driver/Found New Hardware' issue were both resolved using the latest drivers.
 
Before you get carried away...Did you install Windows Media "ENCODER"v9? Its required for ATI's MMC to work, with that exact same error message.

You should also connect the Direct TV converter using Composite (RCA) for the audio and s-video for the video(RCA if you have to) to the purple breakout box and switch to that connector in the TV app. You'll have to use the Direct TV remote to change channels. Coax to the tuner is a poor idea in this case (analog tuner)

You may have issues with your DTV signal strength as well (its the key to proper HDTV function) but you'll find that out after you get your software squared away.

Start with WMEv9 and go from there🙂
 
avsforum.com or rage3d.com forums might be a better site for HDTV Wonder help.
I don't own an HDTV Wonder, but do own a TV Wonder Pro. Not every PCI slot
will allow the card to work, due to IRQ issues. So if all else fails, try swapping
the card to different PCI slots, with no sound card present. Just get the HDTV video
portion working first.
It's possible that only earlier 6x.xx NVidia drivers will work for you; (not sure about that?)
As far as MCE, also try the forums at:
http://www.thegreenbutton.com/community/
Whenever changing video drivers, ATI MMC versions, or sound card drivers, use "Driver Cleaner Pro"
http://www.drivercleaner.net/
Follow the instructions, including booting in F8/Safe Mode when running the cleaner program.
 
'Could Not Initialize TV'

I got this message in the past when I installed my HDTV Wonder with unsupported video cards (Nvidia Quadro4 280 NVS and Matrox G450). Didn't get the message with a Sapphire Radeon 9000 video card and an ATI Radeon 9700 video card. Have you tried downloading the latest drivers and Multimedia Center from ATI's website?

Also, when I installed the HDTV Wonder on an Asus P4C800-E rev. 2 Deluxe, I got the sense that it wasn't the most compatible combo (not sure if it was the ATI HDTV Wonder or ATI Radeon 9700 video card, or both, that just didn't seem completely compatible with this mobo). The HDTV Wonder's drivers weren't recognized immediately and it just seemed to take some reboots before it recognized the 5 drivers in Device Manager needed for this card to work.

I like my HDTV Wonder quite a bit, but it is extremely finicky about associated hardware (supposedly, ATI used the 9600XT with this HDTV Wonder).

Also, there is apparently a new, cheap HDTV tuner designed for MCE:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre...hreadid=501155&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
 
Originally posted by: rbV5
Before you get carried away...Did you install Windows Media "ENCODER"v9? Its required for ATI's MMC to work, with that exact same error message.

You should also connect the Direct TV converter using Composite (RCA) for the audio and s-video for the video(RCA if you have to) to the purple breakout box and switch to that connector in the TV app. You'll have to use the Direct TV remote to change channels. Coax to the tuner is a poor idea in this case (analog tuner)

You may have issues with your DTV signal strength as well (its the key to proper HDTV function) but you'll find that out after you get your software squared away.

Start with WMEv9 and go from there🙂


I have WMEv9 installed, but will reinstall to be certain. I'll have to pick up some additional cables this weekend though to hook it up thru regular TV.

The cable box has an S-video connector, with the standard yellow, red, and white AV connectors. You are saying to connect the S-video connector on the cable box to ATI's break out box. Then connect the red and white connectors from the cable box to the break out box, yes, using the yellow RCA connector on the cable box as a last resort?


Edit - Reinstalling WMEv9 had no effect, same error message.
 
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Just to clarify, these are the cables I would need, correct?

Monster Cable 2m Audio interconnect cable

Monster Cable video 2m S-Video cable

If not, please link me?

I apologize if I seem like I newb, just trying to be very clear and precise. I really want to get this card to function.

I have to say, if you don't know what S-Video and RCA cables look like, maybe you should just get PVR service from your cable company or buy a Tivo.

That said, yes, those are the right cables, but I strongly recommend you just buy regular ones instead of the "Monster" ones that cost 4-5x as much as they reasonably should.
 
Originally posted by: Matthias99
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Just to clarify, these are the cables I would need, correct?

Monster Cable 2m Audio interconnect cable

Monster Cable video 2m S-Video cable

If not, please link me?

I apologize if I seem like I newb, just trying to be very clear and precise. I really want to get this card to function.

I have to say, if you don't know what S-Video and RCA cables look like, maybe you should just get PVR service from your cable company or buy a Tivo.

That said, yes, those are the right cables, but I strongly recommend you just buy regular ones instead of the "Monster" ones that cost 4-5x as much as they reasonably should.

As I said, just being precise. I know what the cables look like, just be absolutely certain. Thanks for the reply. 🙂
 
Okay, got RCA audio cables plugged into the outputs on the cable box, running to ATI's breakout box, which is plugged into the card. The S-video cable is also plugged into the cable box, to the breakout box, to the card. Still got nothing. 🙁

Supposedly, the 61.77 Forceware drivers are the only Nvidia drivers that actually work for the 6800s. I'm going to give the new 71.89s a try, then the 61.77s again.
 
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