HDTV from best buy, any opinions?

MikeMike

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looks nice, but dont buy anything you dont have the actual money for. monthly payment plan is gunna rape you and you are gunna pay so much more out the ass for it.

MIKE
 

ViRaLRuSh

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I was gonna pay in much bigger chunks than they want, but just wanted to do that cause then I'd have extra money to toy with :p
 

Tifababy

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Mitsubishi's are definitely nice. I was looking at the 55" version a while back, but ended up going with the Toshiba instead because of the different stretch modes that toshiba offered and my toshiba is also about half the weight of that thing. I hope you don't plan on moving soon, a 330lb tv is not easy to move up/down stairs.

But you won't be disappointed by the picture quality of that tv.
 

Ilmater

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I have a Mitsubishi which I bought after THOROUGH comparison shopping, and I just looked into it again for a friend. I eventually recommended that TV to him, so I obviously like it.
 

Qwest

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Originally posted by: royaldank
Originally posted by: Qwest
is this tv not DLP/LCD rear projection?

Nope. CRT.

thx. i'm shopping for a tv too, dont Rear CRT suffer from burn in? also, arent they a pain in bright rooms? just asking...
 

Papagayo

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I was told that CRT will always be better than the projection..

All TVs suffer from burn in..
 

royaldank

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CRTs can suffer burn-in. They also weigh a lot. Bright rooms aren't the best places for a CRT big screen, but usually manageable.
 

777php

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Originally posted by: Papagayo
I was told that CRT will always be better than the projection..

All TVs suffer from burn in..

This is a CRT projection TV.
 

purbeast0

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my brother has that exact tv in his house that his roomate just bought. its a great tv, however it is VERY VERY heavy. i have a 50" samsung DLP and he thinks the picture on my TV is noticeably better though, however, the picture on it is still very good.

but if you are looking for the best possible quality i wouldn't go with a CRT. but if you are looking to get a 65" projection that you don't want to use for gaming, then I say go for it, if you have the resources to get that thing in your house as well.

and no, not all projection tv's suffer from burnin. DLP RPTV's don't have this problem.
 

CalvinHobbes

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I still like CRT based RPTV's the best and the Mits is a nice TV. Room light control can be a definite issue as is burn in. If the TV is setup properly burn-in isn't that much of a concern.
 

purbeast0

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Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still like CRT based RPTV's the best and the Mits is a nice TV. Room light control can be a definite issue as is burn in. If the TV is setup properly burn-in isn't that much of a concern.

if you honestly think CRT RPTV's have the best picture, dude you seriously need glasses. i dont' know if i would call it a fact or an opinion that CRT's have the worst picture out of all RPTV's.

and that burnin comment is not true, CRT's always have a risk of burnin. if you plan on watching a lot of 4:3 tv shows, then you will need to plan on watching them in stretched mode often if you are going with a CRT, to not keep the black bars on the sides the whole time.
 

Qwest

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not to thread hijack...but i'm thinking about getting the below tv.
i can't rip myself away from tube CRT because of their black levels/contrast/sharpness.


what do you guys think of this Sony Setfor about $1000.
i know it's bulky and has a big footprint, but my previous experience with a 40" XBR has sold me on Sony Tubes.


all opinions/suggestions welcome.

 

CalvinHobbes

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Originally posted by: purbeast0
Originally posted by: CalvinHobbes
I still like CRT based RPTV's the best and the Mits is a nice TV. Room light control can be a definite issue as is burn in. If the TV is setup properly burn-in isn't that much of a concern.

if you honestly think CRT RPTV's have the best picture, dude you seriously need glasses. i dont' know if i would call it a fact or an opinion that CRT's have the worst picture out of all RPTV's.

and that burnin comment is not true, CRT's always have a risk of burnin. if you plan on watching a lot of 4:3 tv shows, then you will need to plan on watching them in stretched mode often if you are going with a CRT, to not keep the black bars on the sides the whole time.

Setting up the TV properly GREATLY reduces the issue of burn-in as does varying what you watch. Sure it can be an issue but it doesn't have to be.

If CRT is so bad why is it that all new technology is compared to it. Maybe you've just seen some bad CRT displays. CRT is absolutely the most natural look display technology
out there.
 

ViRaLRuSh

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what is burn in? and also, any similar recommendations (links please) with less weight? Even 55" or below is fine.
 

davestar

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Originally posted by: ViRaLRuSh
what is burn in? and also, any similar recommendations (links please) with less weight? Even 55" or below is fine.

burn-in another name for uneven phosphor wear. plasma and CRT-based TV's are prone to this, but it is not an issue in recent models if contrast/brightness are set reasonable levels.

i agree with the previous posts about PQ on a properly configured RP-HDTV - it rivals any other HD technology at a lesser price point. if you can handle the fact that your TV won't be flat and might weigh a fair amount, RPTVs are the sweet spot in price/performance.
 

Rallispec

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are newer CRT projection sets easily calibrated? Could i get the most out of the picture possible by fine tuning it myself, or do you really need to have a professional set it up properly?

i see many of these CRT sets with some sort of 'aut-calibrate' function -- trying to gauge how well they work.
 

royaldank

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Not real sure about auto-cal functions you mentioned. But, calibrating the set isn't that hard. There are guide discs that help. You're not getting a professional job but you can get pretty darn good results using Digital Video Essentials or Avia to calibrate the set.

AVSForum is a great place to read up sets, find the service menus, and get the most out of your set. Those guys are junkies and know most of the products inside and out.
 

glenn1

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I'm dating the girl who is responsible for buying all the television tubes/panels Circuit City sells for the entire corporation, and if you talked to her she'd be the first to tell you (off the record of course) to buy whatever brand is cheapest. She sometimes buys 50-60k units at a time and all the tubes and panels come from basically the same 8-10 factories in China installing the same Corning glass and same Texas Instruments DLP processors into whatever housing the spec calls for, then it gets the nameplate slapped on. The bezel may look different but the guts are basically the same whether it's Sony, LG, Samsung, or anyone else's name on the box.
 

royaldank

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Originally posted by: glenn1
I'm dating the girl who is responsible for buying all the television tubes/panels Circuit City sells for the entire corporation, and if you talked to her she'd be the first to tell you (off the record of course) to buy whatever brand is cheapest. She sometimes buys 50-60k units at a time and all the tubes and panels come from basically the same 8-10 factories in China installing the same Corning glass and same Texas Instruments DLP processors into whatever housing the spec calls for, then it gets the nameplate slapped on. The bezel may look different but the guts are basically the same whether it's Sony, LG, Samsung, or anyone else's name on the box.

True to a degree. But, the internals are not all the same. Many companies use their own scaling algorithms and different parts inside (6 segment color wheels, 7 segment color wheels, bulbs, etc.). There's probably not much difference, but there is certainly noticable difference in the screen appearance. I would recommend anyone visit a few stores and check out the sets they are thinking about. Try as many stores as possible and on different times of the days. See it in as many lighting situations as possible and as much material on the screen as possible.

Also, many folks are not aware that there are 2 main DLP chips being used today. HD2+ and HD3. The 3 is cheaper to make and uses a wooble effect, appearing more film like and smooth. The HD2+ is more crisp and shows finer detail. Most folks prefer the HD2+ chips.

Saying they are all about the same is fairly accurate. But, if I'm spending $2K+ on a TV, I'm going to make sure I get the one that looks absolutely the best to me within a reasonable price range.