HDD

[circusslaughter]

So when I boot up my computer it's uber slow and I just built it 6 months ago, is it my HDD or something else making it boot so slow?

 

[Jaydip]

How many devices are connected?

 

[circusslaughter]

What do you mean?

 

[Bubbaleone]

Post your hardware specs, which operating system you're running and which antimalware/antivirus program/s are currently installed.

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[circusslaughter]

I am using webroot for my antivirus and specs

PSU: XFX 550w

DVD/CD drive: Asus 24x

RAM: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2x4gb)

HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm 16gb cache

MOBO: Asus M5A97

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

CPU: AMD FX 6300

Graphics card: XFX HD 7950 Core Edition 3gb

 

[denis280]

I am using webroot for my antivirus

remove webroot

 

[Bubbaleone]

I am using webroot for my antivirus and specs

PSU: XFX 550w

DVD/CD drive: Asus 24x

RAM: Mushkin Radioactive 8GB (2x4gb)

HDD Seagate Barracuda 500gb 7200rpm 16gb cache

MOBO: Asus M5A97

OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

CPU: AMD FX 6300

Graphics card: XFX HD 7950 Core Edition 3gb

I tend to agree with denis280 because of Webroot's reputation for their virus definition updates so often causing a multitude of different problems in Windows. If you plan on keeping it I'd suggest you temporarily uninstall Webroot and then cleanup all the junk files on on your PC. Download and save the latest version of Webroot (have your Webroot product key handy) then use either the Windows cleanup tool or Piriform's CCleaner to get rid of any junk files.

If you decide to use CCleaner don't select any registry "cleaning" options, just clear the junk files only. When you've finished cleanup , reboot the PC, perform a clean installation of Webroot and let it update itself and scan your PC. When that's completed post back with your results, and whether or not there's a noticeable difference in the "sluggishness" you're currently experiencing.

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[circusslaughter]

Would trend micro be better? That is what I use on my laptop.

Also I am planning to get a SSD, should I upgrade my HDD or is it good?

 

[Bubbaleone]

ESET's NOD32 or their Smart Security are the only two that I'll recommend. Your HDD will be fine for storage but you should consider doing a clean Windows install on your new SSD. This would eliminate the problem/s that can occur when simply cloning an existing Windows image to a new drive. Make sure that the SSD is the only drive connected to the mobo when you do the clean Windows install.

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[circusslaughter]

I have trendmicro not webroot.

 

[John Connor]

I am helping someone that was using ESET and a virus got through. Try Avast, Bitdefender or Comodo.

Try crystaldiskinfo and HDtune to test the drive.

 

[circusslaughter]

I like my trendmicro. I have a year left with it so not gonna switch anytime soon. I've always had luck with it and it doesn't bog my laptop and I play WoW and Sim 3 on it.

90% sure my anti virus is nothing to do with my overly slow boot time and I scanned it for virus and deleted unnecessary files off. Still boggish.

So is my HDD that slow and will a SSD help make a difference in my boot time?

 

[Ketchup]

Did it just get slow one day, or was this over time? Done a full system scan recently with any virus/ spyware scanner?

 

[circusslaughter]

I scan it everyday. It's been bogish even before I put antivirus on it. Just boots extremely slow.

 

[Ketchup]

steampunkowl13, i don't mean to be rude here, but I know this post is going to come across that way.

We get it. Your system is slow. However, you need to bring some more information to the table if you want help in a forum. There isn't some magic spell that just let's us know what might be slowing you down. If you don't feel like giving us more info, there is probably a repair shop near where you live that will figure it out for you.

 

[circusslaughter]

All I am trying to figure out is if HDD can slow down a computer and if so will a SSD help improve performance speeds?

Also I am assuming I have enough RAM for my system so that shouldn't be what is causing the slow boot.

 

[Ketchup]

Gotcha, a mechanical hard drive is the slowest part of a computer by FAR. A SSD will make your computer feel like a whole new machine in most situations.

 

[circusslaughter]

And how do you pick a good SSD?

 

[Ketchup]

Reviews on Anandtech would be a good place to start. Buy a drive the performs well and is in your price range, such as one of these:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7173/...w-120gb-250gb-500gb-750gb-1tb-models-tested/7

Stay away from OCZ, and you will be fine.

 

[Virgorising]

Have no clue if this issue is hardware or software centered, or some infection.

Is it only slow on boot? Re "sluggish", pls be more specific.

Yr chip has pretty impressive benchmarks, after all; no clue what yr board supports, but you have decent ram.

Have you edited yr start menu to the bone? What is loading with Windows now? is the system glutted up with junk files? DO YOU DEFRAG YR DRIVE?

Have you run diagnostics on yr current drive? That's always a worthy thing to do.

I think I would run W7 mem test on boot, maybe a stick is not properly seated?

 

[circusslaughter]

It boots slow, loads really slow on somr games, and I experience occasionally lag on games.

 

[Ketchup]

What about my original question, which I will rephrase:

Is the computer slower today than it was when it was new? If so, when did you start noticing the slowness?

If it has always been "slow", what are you comparing it to? Another computer loading the same software?

 

[Virgorising]

It boots slow, loads really slow on somr games, and I experience occasionally lag on games.

What does yr CPU idle at in task Manager???

Again, how many needless items are in yr start menu?

How hot is yr CPU running? Does yr board have sensors for an app to check?

Again, do you get rid of junk files every day? Do you defrag the drive?

The system I am on right now, has nowhere near the specs of yours......but I make sure I keep it healthy in every way and 7 boots really fast.

Kinda wish I could be there myself and check stuff and do stuff first hand.

 

[Virgorising]

What about my original question, which I will rephrase:

Is the computer slower today than it was when it was new? If so, when did you start noticing the slowness?

If it has always been "slow", what are you comparing it to? Another computer loading the same software?

Bingo. For whatever it's worth, I ditto every query in the above.:thumbsup:
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I have Glary Utilities (among infinite other apps I have chosen carefully).
Just opened it, chose overview tab. Right in that interface it says my boot time is 32 seconds. Then, it says “your bootime is fast, 73% of users are slower.”

Compared with YOUR system’s specs…mine in this current one are pathetic, kinda. PD 3.40 (Presler), 3 GBs of DDR2. My upgrated PSU is 430w. And, I have two identical SATA HDDs, not new ones, even, FORGET SSDs….I use one for only backup.

I have the pro version, but Glary also has a free one. Not sure if that has the above feature or not, but might be worth getting and checking.


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[FONT=&quot]So, basically what we do is to check the Windows 7 event log for the boot time. Yep, that means that Windows does log the boot time anyway and you don’t have to enable it first. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]1. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Open the Control Panel
2. Click on System and Security
3. At the bottom below Administrative Tools click on View event logs [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]4.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] In the left pane uncollapse: [/FONT]

• [FONT=&quot]+Applications and Services Logs (wait for a few seconds!)[/FONT]
• [FONT=&quot]+Microsoft[/FONT]
• [FONT=&quot]+Windows[/FONT]
• [FONT=&quot]+Diagnostics Performance[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]5.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] Double-click on Operational
6. Click on one of the entries with the Event ID: 100 [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
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[FONT=&quot]7. [/FONT][FONT=&quot]Then at the bottom under General you will find a little entry Boot Duration: [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]8.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] If you want to find out why the boot time is so slow, click on details. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9.[/FONT][FONT=&quot] To speed up the boot time you need to find out what is causing the delay. So, check the values carefully and do research on values with a high numbers. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Now identify values with a high value (in ms)[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Values that are often very high: BootDriverInitTime and BootPrefecthInitTime. The latter one can be high if Windows 7 stores a lot of prefetch data. We have listed the pros and cons of disabling prefetch to speed up the boot time here. The first one will be high if Windows 7 is loading a lot of drivers. You should remove unwanted drivers and any leftovers (we will be posting a tool to do that shortly). [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Simply go through the list of values and try to identify values that are particular high. Remember all of the values are in ms. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The boot time values that you have to check are:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]BootTsVersion 2
BootStartTime 2010-08-01T11:16:52.780800500Z
BootEndTime 2010-08-01T11:19:16.848211200Z
SystemBootInstance 60
UserBootInstance 57
BootTime 72392
MainPathBootTime 39492
BootKernelInitTime 19
BootDriverInitTime 3314
BootDevicesInitTime 5638
BootPrefetchInitTime 53087
BootPrefetchBytes 709468160
BootAutoChkTime 0
BootSmssInitTime 3752
BootCriticalServicesInitTime 426
BootUserProfileProcessingTime 1070
BootMachineProfileProcessingTime 170
BootExplorerInitTime 12739
BootNumStartupApps 14
BootPostBootTime 32900
BootIsRebootAfterInstall false
BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits 0
BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits 0
BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits 4194304
BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits 4194304
BootIsDegradation false
BootIsStepDegradation false
BootIsGradualDegradation false
BootImprovementDelta 0
BootDegradationDelta 0
BootIsRootCauseIdentified true
OSLoaderDuration 2328
BootPNPInitStartTimeMS 19
BootPNPInitDuration 5658
OtherKernelInitDuration 4151
SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS 9781
SystemPNPInitDuration 3295
SessionInitStartTimeMS 13105
Session0InitDuration 1061
Session1InitDuration 205
SessionInitOtherDuration 2485
WinLogonStartTimeMS 16857
OtherLogonInitActivityDuration 8655
UserLogonWaitDuration 18547 [/FONT]

 

[John Connor]

I guess my info on using HDtune slipped past his mind.