HDD enclosure for media.

shrikitiki2011

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Hi everyone,

I am looking for a HDD enclosure with 4-5 bays so I can store my movies, photos, etc. I want the option of expandability so I can start out with 1 or 2 drives and then go on from there. I know Drobo offers this but it is quite an expensive option. I was looking for something similar to the Drobo.

Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

Thanks.
 

smitbret

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Are you wanting a standalone NAS or something like a USB enclosure? Does portability matter?

I was looking at the Drobo setups and I could put together an excellent unRAID box for about half the cost for similar capacity. It wouldn't be portable and would require a bit more setup but if it's just gonna sit on your desktop all of the time anyway.....

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shrikitiki2011

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Well with a NAS I am limited by my internet connection correct ?
So in those terms transferring large amounts of data would be a hassle.

Portability isn't really an issue for me. I just need a safe and fast solution to backup to since I'm just going to leave it on my desktop.
 

smitbret

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Well with a NAS I am limited by my internet connection correct ?
So in those terms transferring large amounts of data would be a hassle.

Portability isn't really an issue for me. I just need a safe and fast solution to backup to since I'm just going to leave it on my desktop.

You would be limited by your network speed. But internet speed really has nothing to do with it unless you were trying to access it somewhere away from home in which case Drobo wouldn't be anymore useful unless you were unplugging it and taking it with you.

If you have a Gigabit network connection with your router you won't see any speed issues with tasks like backing up and serving up media. For the price of the Drobo system you could afford to upgrade your router and cables a few times over. What does your network look like? What router are you using and do you have a Gigabit connection with your PC.
 

shrikitiki2011

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I have the router in the great room. All of my computers are wireless connected and my ps3 in my basement is connected via ethernet.

I have a old Linksys WRT300N for my router.
 

smitbret

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I was looking through the Drobo setups and they are some nice looking boxes and I have no doubt they will do what you would like them to do. After a very cursory glance, it looks like the 4-Bay Drobo is going to start in the $300-400 range before the cost of drives and the 5D is upwards of $700+. If you are OK with very basic networking and can work your way through an easy interface then unRAID or even a FreeNAS box will save you a LOT of cash.

I've been looking for a similar solution and finally settled on unRAID because I can use a couple of drives that I already own and upgrading the storage capacity in the future is as easy as finding an empty bay and sticking an HDD in it. If you have any old computer pieces laying around, you can use them in a new unRAID box since just about any CPU with 1GB of memory will run an unRAID box as long as the motherboard can boot from a Flash Drive. I decided to buy everything from scratch except for a 500GB cache drive that I have lying around and my bill with shipping was about $750 for a 6TB unRAID system, that includes the HDDs.

That is a good router, but doesn't support Gigabit networking. It will definitely be a bottleneck at around 12MB/s. That is still plenty fast for streaming multiple HD video streams and sharing media files like music and phots. It will be a little bit slow for file transfers and depending on how much you want to use it for backup, it could be a bit slow. A good unRAID setup will get you in the 30s and 40s. If you decide for a NAS type setup then I would recommend budgeting $100 or so for a new router that has wired Gigabit connections.
 

shrikitiki2011

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Yeah the unRAID box seems like a good solution. I don't have any spare computer parts lying around. Can you suggest a build ? I want something that doesn't take up too much space.

Have you heard anything about FlexRAID. It also seems similar to unRAID.
 

smitbret

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Yeah the unRAID box seems like a good solution. I don't have any spare computer parts lying around. Can you suggest a build ? I want something that doesn't take up too much space.

Have you heard anything about FlexRAID. It also seems similar to unRAID.

I had heard of it but hadn't really looked into it. My dilemma was unRAID vs. FreeNAS and putting together a ZFS RAIDz1 system. Eventually settled on unRAID because of the ability to just add an extra drive now and then without having to change the whole array or upgrade all of the drives one at a time.

Inspired, I looked into the FlexRAID. Seems like the difference comes down to whether you want to install a system that is kind of "Set it and Forget It" or something where you plan on accessing the system frequently and maybe want to run some other software like a DLNA server or Torrent Client.

FlexRAID runs on top of an already existing OS like Windows and then runs as a driver to establish the storage pool that you've setup. You can then run other programs in Windows with the FlexRAID system. FlexRAID also appears to create parity by taking a scheduled snapshot of the array and rebuilding from that, or so it would seem to me. Discussions indicate that it can cause a few recovery issues that way but it seems to be pretty well received and supported. You can also just add a drive with data on it and the FlexRAID array should see the data and integrate it into the storage pool which is really nice.

unRAID is its own operating system that runs off of a flash drive. You can add drives as often as you wish and the array will automatically expand with the addition. Parity is done on the fly or you can use a cache drive to speed up write times.

The reason I would still choose unRAID is that if one of your drives fails, it will continue to run and data will be retrieved from the parity drive until you replace it. With the FlexRAID, your data will be unaccessible until you rebuild from the snapshot. I just want a headless system that I can access from a WebGUI from different PC that just does a job for me (store and retrieve data) and just sit there otherwise. unRAID also does not require much for resources. Just about any motherboard and CPU combo that will boot from a flash drive will work great. FlexRAID will require whatever the base OS requires. I used an AMD FM1 microATX board with 6 SATA ports and the cheapest dual core AMD/APU that I could find. All of the hardware (before adding drives) came in at less than $300. I'll get you a parts list that I used.

As far as FlexRAID vs. unRAIDI don't think you'll go wrong either way.
 
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Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130641 ~$50

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819106013 ~$40

Memory: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231185 ~$25

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139049 ~$50

Flash Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139049 ~$7

Cat 6: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139049 ~$12

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811815015 ~$80

Anti-Vibration Connectors: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811995072 ~$12

120mm fan: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835209050 ~$13

unRAID up to 3 drives is free, but I want to use the Cache Drive and will probably end up with 6 or 7 HDDs so unRAID Plus is for me @ $69.

Total Cost for me is about $410 before drives.

A lot of people prefer real server cases or full towers that they can fill with RAID cages but I don't have a need to drop $200 on a case and $100/each for RAID cages. That would be big overkill for me. With this case I can start out with 8 HDDs that are side mounted for easy access if necessary and I can add 5 more with a '5 in 3' RAID cage if I need more than 11 HDDs. In reality, there are cheaper cases that you could use, too. There are a lot of good <$50 cases that will do the job just fine if you don't need all of that space.