HD using MS-DOS compatibility blah blah blah

FriedToast

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Trying to get my new beast running right. 1.33 on an Iwill KA266-R and a 45gb Maxtor. Says the HD's using MS-DOS paging compatibility or something like that. A friend said he dealt with it, but it was a pain in the buttika. I looked on Google and didn't see much that helped. Didn't want to spend days poring through technical gobbledygook in order to find a good answer.

BTW- I'm running 98se.

It also doesn't shutdown. Hits the Windoze Shutdown splashscreen, and that's it. A linux guy thought the BIOS might have a goofy setting, but I couldn't find anything in there that would mess w/ it. And I just did a reformat the other day trying to fix it. No luck.
 

bacillus

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Both Windows95 and 98 have a bug: Sometimes, Windows can't work out the IDE controller, and therefore ceases to use its 32-bit drivers for it.

Symptoms:
- CDROM drive disappears
- In device manager, both "Primary IDE controller" and "Secondary IDE controller" appear with a yellow exclamation mark
- In device manager under "performance", all HD's appear in compatibility mode.

Solution:
Click Start, then Run... , and type regedit
Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\IOS
You should see a value named "NoIDE". Delete it, close regedit and reboot!




<< It also doesn't shutdown >>


did you install the windows shutdown patch??
 

FriedToast

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Thanks, I'll try that tonight after work!

And no, haven't tried the Shutdown patch yet.
LOL. I tell all my friends w/ the problem to do that.... but I've never had that problem. Then when I do, I ignore my own advice.

LOL- isn't good advice unless it comes from someone else :D
 

FriedToast

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Tried the registry thing.
No go.
Under IOS, I have these values:

Default value not set
Start 00
StaticVxD &quot;*IOS&quot;


That's it. Nothing saying &quot;NoIDE&quot;

Any ideas?
 

boran

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I had compatibility mode on too for my HD's its a real performance eater .. my HD got 5040 drivemarks in sandra (99 i think, long tima ago ..) after reformatting etc (with something different than Fdisk cous fdisk was the cause of this) my Drive was out of compatibility mode and I got 9354 Drivemarks, so the performance almost doubled (acces time reduced from 12ms to 7 ms (even faster than my primary despite the fact that they are the same (maybe sumething with free space left ..)

 

FriedToast

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Iwill KA266-R is Ali chipset..... (although I could try the Via 4-in-1 drivers ;) )

just installed the stuf that was on the disc provided w/ the mb. And the website doesn't provide too much in the way of additional fun DLs.
 

Kartajan

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try to reload the ide controller drivers. It's been so long since I ran Win9x, that I can't recall any more details....
 

FriedToast

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Almost positive it's not a virus. It had that problem immediately after installing the OS (Win98se)- Before I ever got online w/ it. But it never hurts to check :)

I might give the Ali IDE drivers another go. Think I've done that already a couple times, but hey- maybe it'll get tired of me screwin' w/ it.

Makin' my own beastie and getting it to run correctly seems like much more work that it's worth. I don't really have the patience to troubleshoot pesky things. I get mad because when I want it to work, I want it to work NOW. Murphy loves me, though, so I never get anything to work right NOW. Later or Much Later is usually the case :(
 

Bozo Galora

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first thing i would do is go into safe mode, dev manager, highlight and remove all cd's, cdr's showing
reboot to redetect

if that doesnt work, i would shut down and unplug any cd/cdr on same cable as hdd., reboot to see if the cd is the cause

if that didnt work i would:
Boot from a clean write protected boot diskette
Once at A:\> type fdisk /mbr and press enter, this should return you
to the A:\>
Type sys c: and press enter, once the system has been transferred
remove the diskette and reboot the computer.

if that didnt work i would:
1.On the Windows 98 CD open the Tools\mtsutil folder
2.In this folder locate the noide.inf file.
3.Right click the file and choose install.

 

LionHeart19

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I had this same problem 2 times

1. once it was a cause by a boot record virus using a infected floppy disk
what Bozo Galora said work for me
&quot;Once at A:\> type fdisk /mbr and press enter, this should return you&quot;

2. after reformatting my HD for some reason this one time windows did not install the HD Divers. (I format a few times before with no problems)
I download the drivers from samsung.com and that solve my problem.

 

VBboy

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Bah, what virus scan!

You need to install the IDE driver that comes with the mobo. It is RAID, right? On my Epox 8K7A+, I use the raid as a plain IDE controller. Had this problem until I installed the IDE driver (but not the RAID driver).