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JayhaVVKU

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Well I am in the market for an LCD, and am seriouslly tempted to buy the 2005FPW. But I was thinking that if I bought this I would want to use it as a TV as well at school, and was wondering if there was a way to watch HD content on it(my guess would be 720p, but not sure).

What kind of hardware will I need to watch HDTV on this monitor? I already have a 6800 w/DVI capability.

Thanks for the help!
 
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fstime

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I dont think it does but i'm not 100% sure so i'd wait for someone who knows.

It doesnt say anything about HD support on dell's website.

I know the Apple 23'' and 30'' have HD support since it's listed on apple's website.

Those monitors are pricey though.
 
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JayhaVVKU

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That would also lead to another question is that if this cannot support HD, then what would be a good 19-21" LCD that would, and also play games well?
 
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Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU
That would also lead to another question is that if this cannot support HD, then what would be a good 19-21" LCD that would, and also play games well?
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16824160141

hmm that's the best I could come up with on new egg and that one has a 25ms response time, which is inadequate for computer games, or at least that's my opinion. Search results for 19", 2.1", and 21" yielded no results whatsoever. It would seem that for what you are looking for, you are going to either have to get a larger(more expensive) lcd tv monitor or wait for one that fits your specifications to come out.
 
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JayhaVVKU

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Viewsonic VP201b 20 Inch, I found supports HD but I think it needs some kind of decoder box or something for 720p. It also doesn't support widescreen but it has a great response time which should be beneficial for gaming(unless it's not an accurate timing.)

I'd love that Dell, I think most of my games could handle the resolution alright. The Widescreen would be great for movies, and if it could do HD that would seal the deal.
 
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The 2005 does not have 'component' video input so you can not attach a satellite or cable decoder box to it to recieve 'premium' channels in HD in this fashion. You can get a PCI HD TV tuner card and get the locals in HD. You also may watch HD content in the form of downloadable movie trailers in .wmv or divx format.

Personally I actually would suggest the 2405 for HD content, since that has at least built in component input, which makes the process somewhat easier. Or of course the obvious option of an LCD TV.
 
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JBT

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An LCD TV sucks as a PC monitor with that low of a resolution though...
 
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Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU
Viewsonic VP201b 20 Inch, I found supports HD but I think it needs some kind of decoder box or something for 720p. It also doesn't support widescreen but it has a great response time which should be beneficial for gaming(unless it's not an accurate timing.)

I'd love that Dell, I think most of my games could handle the resolution alright. The Widescreen would be great for movies, and if it could do HD that would seal the deal.
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What video card do you use with the Viewsonic?
 
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Peter

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... and you need to remember that video acceleration on 6800 is, to put it into popular wording, t3h b0rk. Not Working, for those who still prefer English ;)
 
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SynthDude2001

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Originally posted by: Peter
... and you need to remember that video acceleration on 6800 is, to put it into popular wording, t3h b0rk. Not Working, for those who still prefer English ;)
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QFT

I wouldn't be able to play 1080i transport stream files smoothly if it weren't for my HDTV tuner with onboard hardware decoder... And I drop lots of frames on 1080p WMV-HD content. Of course, I only have an Athlon XP still (although it's at 2.4GHz), but would it really be too much to ask that my $350 video card let me watch HD content smoothly? :roll:

Edit: It kind of sounds like you (the OP) are more interested in trying to get something like a Component signal to the 2005FPW from an external HD decoder box from a cable company - in which case the video card will be completely out of the picture. You will need to get a Component->VGA transcoder though (someone posted a link to one the other day that was only about $70).
 
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SynthDude2001

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Originally posted by: gvayl
Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU
The question again is this all I would need to run the 2005FPW in HD?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/Prod...85&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx
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Thats not an HDTV receiver. You need an ATI HDTV Wonder to watch HDTV. I have the 2005 and the HDTV wonder...and I can tell ya its NICE!
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The HDTV Wonder - or any other PCI HDTV tuner. ;)

I'm running a MyHD MDP-130 myself (on my 2005FPW), and I've been thoroughly spoiled by HDTV. :D
 
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gvayl

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: gvayl
Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU
The question again is this all I would need to run the 2005FPW in HD?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/Prod...85&first=true&page=productlisting.aspx
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Thats not an HDTV receiver. You need an ATI HDTV Wonder to watch HDTV. I have the 2005 and the HDTV wonder...and I can tell ya its NICE!
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The HDTV Wonder - or any other PCI HDTV tuner. ;)

I'm running a MyHD MDP-130 myself (on my 2005FPW), and I've been thoroughly spoiled by HDTV. :D
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Word!
 
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You must understand that being able to "display" HDTV content on your monitor is a result of the monitor & graphics card being able to support the HDTV resolutions.

Now then just because you CAN display HDTV content with your graphics card & monitor does NOT mean that you will.

- You would need an HDTV (ATSC) Tuner PCI add-in card with and HDTV antenna.
- OR HDTV Digital Cable provider with an output box (& your monitor able to connect to the cable box)
- OR HDTV Digital Satelite TV with an output box (& your monitor able to connect to the satelite box)

NOTE: The cable or satelite companies may even provide the HDTV decoder in the form of a specialized PCMCIA card that is suppose to plug directly into the display device.

Now then the HDTV resolutions are:
720p = 1280x720
1080i = 1920x1080

The p stands for Progressive while the i stands for interlaced.

 
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Fox5

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I'd like to note that if the LCD monitor has a VGA port, you can get a component to VGA adapter and hook it up.

I have the L90D+, however with my particular component transcoder(don't know if all are the same), I can't display 1280x720, despite the monitor's max res of 1280x1024. It does do 640x480 progressive and 848x480(widescreen) progressive just fine though.

There are also LCD tvs that can double as computer monitors, but they're usually far poorer quality LCDs.
 
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Peter

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Component to VGA adapter: Not Working. Unless the display is designed to accept Component input on its VGA plug - if it did, it'd say so on the box. Mind that the cable isn't doing any signal conversion.
 
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JayhaVVKU

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Ok, now I'm feeling somewhat more confused.

So when I get cable hooked up in the new house, I assume that it has to be digital cable with the box and everything for the HD signal.

With that box I would then, hypothetically, be able to hook the box up with my home theater receiver and hook my LCD monitor to the receiver via VGA-Component cables?
 
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SynthDude2001

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Originally posted by: JayhaVVKU
Ok, now I'm feeling somewhat more confused.

So when I get cable hooked up in the new house, I assume that it has to be digital cable with the box and everything for the HD signal.

With that box I would then, hypothetically, be able to hook the box up with my home theater receiver and hook my LCD monitor to the receiver via VGA-Component cables?
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Only if you could find a transcoder - as Peter noted, a simple adapter won't work because computer LCD's almost never accept Component signals over VGA (the format is different, or something).
 
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JayhaVVKU

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Hrm...ok. So then I'd need a pci card(eg. ATI HDTV) to accept the HDTV signal and display it. I assume that this could be integrated into a home theater type solution relatively easily utilizing one of these cards?
 
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SGtheArtist

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You have to be careful with "Digital Cable" you would not want Digital Cable but instead HDTV Digital Cable.

They are NOT the same thing.

Digital Cable is "standard TV (NTSC)" sent digitally. The cable company does this so they can compress the regular channels and provide more channels. Therefore the end result is regular TV.

HDTV Digital Cable has the HDTV (ATCS) channels.

If you go with a PCI HDTV Tuner then it can only receive & (assuming your graphics card & display can handle it) display the Over The Air (OTA) HDTV channels. Usually (depending upon where you live) receive the digital signal for the big 4 broadcasters.

ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX (sometimes PBS & UPN)

In addition antenna direction plays a critical role in either receiving or not receiving a channel. For example: The ABC & NBC HDTV broadcast towers are north of my location & the CBS & FOX HDTV broadcast towers are south of my location then (with 1 antenna) I can either receive ABC & NBC or CBS & FOX but not all four.

Also (unlike OTA NTSC) with OTA HDTV you either have a signal or you dont their is no snow/static of a partial picture.

http://www.hdtvpub.com/

This link has some information on OTA HDTV channels, I remember seeing another website that actually could show where the broadcast towers were in you area by zip code but I can't seem to find it.

HERE it is: http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx
 
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