HD 5870 Vs HD 7850

[Don Karnage]

Someone please convince me that i'm absolutely crazy to even be considering a 5870 for 220 dollars right now. Whats going to be better in games like BF3?

 

[Arkaign]

Stock v stock, they're actually fairly close in BF3. I've heard that the 7850 oc's really well, but of course there's no guarantees with that.

If you could get the right amount of coin for your used 5870, I'd do it, as GPUs and GPU fans don't last forever. The 2GB ram should be handy.

The 7870 would be a nice leap, but man, $$$.

 

[(sic)Klown12]

The 7850 should be faster in newer DX11 games with it's superior geometry and compute performance. Add that to it being smaller, cooler, and uses less power it would be my choice.

 

[Don Karnage]

Stock v stock, they're actually fairly close in BF3. I've heard that the 7850 oc's really well, but of course there's no guarantees with that.

If you could get the right amount of coin for your used 5870, I'd do it, as GPUs and GPU fans don't last forever. The 2GB ram should be handy.

The 7870 would be a nice leap, but man, $$$.

Thanks Ark. Christ i wish i had numbers to compare. What about a 1050 core 5870 vs a 1200 core 7850. 7850's has to have the edge right?

ONLY reason i'm even thinking 5870 because it's a Matrix and i love those cards.

 

[Arkaign]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/11

That's probably the page you're looking for.

along with their OC results :

http://www.anandtech.com/show/5625/...-7850-review-rounding-out-southern-islands/19

 

[Jaydip]

Buy 7850.These newer cards scale well when u overclock and u get directx 11.1(worthless at this point).

 

[RavenSEAL]

7850 for sure.

 

[Silverforce11]

58xx OC uses a LOT more power. I recall @ 1ghz they use about the same power as a gtx480.

78xx uses 20W extra with a beefy OC, prolly 30W if you max it. So you have a lot of performance around the 130W mark.

Just factoring in a 100W (it's prolly close to 150W) difference OC vs OC, you could be spending an extra ~$50 to 100 in electricity over a 2yr period. So factor in the power use if you care about perf/$$.

 

[Don Karnage]

You guys are all right... Ugh... I had to find a matrix 5870 didn't i. Alright so its settled on a 7850. Now whats the best one to get? Asus?

 

[Zebo]

You guys are all right... Ugh... I had to find a matrix 5870 didn't i. Alright so its settled on a 7850. Now whats the best one to get? Asus?

Thats unfortunate this Classified Ultra is the best deal in mid-high range graphics cards right now by far
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130758

This card beats anything under $300 all for $239 and is built like a tank with high end electronics on high end PCB

It actually may beat GTX 580 and will beat 7870 too which are in $350-$400 range. Let alone 7850.

Here is a slower version of it reviewed. One above is faster "ultra" version being clocked even higher!
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/36565-evga-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-classified/?page=6

Lifetime warranty and if you don't like it EVGA has an upgrade program.

Otherwise yes a 7850 is best deal in mid-high GFX once OCed

 

[Don Karnage]

Thats unfortunate this Classified Ultra is the best deal in mid-high range graphics cards right now by far
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130758

This card beats anything under $300 all for $239 and is built like a tank with high end electronics on high end PCB

It actually may beat GTX 580 and will beat 7870 too which are in $350-$400 range. Let alone 7850.

Here is a slower version of it reviewed. One above is faster "ultra" version being clocked even higher!
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/36565-evga-geforce-gtx-560-ti-448-classified/?page=6

Lifetime warranty and if you don't like it EVGA has an upgrade program.

And ofcourse someone throws another card into the mix.

Let me find some reviews on it and thank you

 

[bigsnyder]

You guys are all right... Ugh... I had to find a matrix 5870 didn't i. Alright so its settled on a 7850. Now whats the best one to get? Asus?

I went with this:

MSI R7850 at newegg

MSI Global page for R7850

- Cooler seems more robust than Sapphire with aluminum shroud (3 heatpipes vs 2 as well)
- No overhang like Asus card
- XFX card is 10.5 in, MSI 8.5, also inconsistent reviews on XFX cooler

For some a card like the XFX may be a plus with the 7870 PCB and two socket power connectors, but in my opinion this defeats the purpose of the HD7850. If I wanted a card the size of the 7870, I would get a 7870.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'd get that XFX 7850 "ghost" and put a block on it, if people are hitting 1300MHz on air with 1 6pin I'd go for 1400 on water with dual 6 pins

 

[Don Karnage]

I'd get that XFX 7850 "ghost" and put a block on it, if people are hitting 1300MHz on air with 1 6pin I'd go for 1400 on water with dual 6 pins

7850 Ghost? Let me look on newegg.

Just checked it out. XFX voids your warranty if you take off the stock fan even to apply MX4 so screw them. They will not be getting my money. Also the PCB looks to be lacking.

Do i see 3+2 phase power or am i just blind?

XFX

Asus

 

[lavaheadache]

xfx revised cards are garbage

 

[Don Karnage]

xfx revised cards are garbage

They look like it

 

[lavaheadache]

One of my xfx reference 5870 cards needed to be RMA'd. Got back a revised card in return and was completely blown away by how crappy the revised card looked and felt.

All of the components looked like they were crap. Everything about the card screamed budget grade.

 

[Arzachel]

If BF3 is your main metric, then I'd advise waiting for a 660Ti/670. Nvidia just seems to do better in that game. But overall, the 7850 is just amazing for the price, if you're willing to oc it.

Also, I'd stay the hell away from XFX, they've been steadily going downhill for quite a while now.

 

[Don Karnage]

If BF3 is your main metric, then I'd advise waiting for a 660Ti/670. Nvidia just seems to do better in that game. But overall, the 7850 is just amazing for the price, if you're willing to oc it.

As much as i want to spend the money kinda thinking do i really need too. Right now i'm running 5770's in Xfire and i have no issues with BF3 @ 1920X1080 on High with them overclocked to 1 Ghz core and 1400 mem.

When is the 660Ti expected? I was only thinking of the 5870 because it's a Matrix and a 2GB card

 

[BallaTheFeared]

5870 is a DX9/10 card, I'd shy away from it for sure, and 28nm is ugly when the $250 7850 is considered "amazing" price/perf.

 

[Don Karnage]

5870 is a DX9/10 card, I'd shy away from it for sure, and 28nm is ugly when the $250 7850 is considered "amazing" price/perf.

DX11 was introduced with the 5 Series cards my friend

 

[SickBeast]

Don just look for hot deals. I just got a powercolor 7850 for $232 shipped which is decent.

 

[lavaheadache]

DX11 was introduced with the 5 Series cards my friend

I'm pretty sure he was more or less taking a jab at the tesselation performance of Cypress

 

[BallaTheFeared]

What I meant was performance wise it can drop off rather quickly, especially in titles with tess.

Titles such as BF3 and Batman the 5870 gets beat by the $150 470 for instance.

The 7850 isn't creating any performance milestones at $250 either in BF3.

What other games besides BF3 are you playing, since performance can very so much between titles it might help in giving you the best information towards your specific needs.

 

[Don Karnage]

You guys are all right. I just have a Hardon for Matrix cards