Hayabusa engine in a MK1 VW?

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Greenman

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I wouldn't have thought a Busa motor would produce enough torque for use in a car.
 

halik

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There is a huge issue with oil deprivation on these conversion - bikes lean it during cornering, so the pickup is always submerged in old. When you shove it into a regular car, the oil pans aren't deep enough to keep the pickup in oil during lateral acceleration - people spin bearings like no other on autox and such.
 

Greenman

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Originally posted by: halik
There is a huge issue with oil deprivation on these conversion - bikes lean it during cornering, so the pickup is always submerged in old. When you shove it into a regular car, the oil pans aren't deep enough to keep the pickup in oil during lateral acceleration - people spin bearings like no other on autox and such.

That makes no sense at all. Wouldn't the same thing happen going down a long straight stretch of road? And even if such a thing could occur, wouldn't it be easy enough to add an oil pan spacer and increase the volume?

Understand that I have no knowledge on the subject, I'm just guessing based on what seems logical.
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: halik
There is a huge issue with oil deprivation on these conversion - bikes lean it during cornering, so the pickup is always submerged in old. When you shove it into a regular car, the oil pans aren't deep enough to keep the pickup in oil during lateral acceleration - people spin bearings like no other on autox and such.

That makes no sense at all. Wouldn't the same thing happen going down a long straight stretch of road? And even if such a thing could occur, wouldn't it be easy enough to add an oil pan spacer and increase the volume?

Understand that I have no knowledge on the subject, I'm just guessing based on what seems logical.

I'm pretty sure you can't pull anywhere near as much Gs under acceleration or braking compared to ~1G in lateral turns, plus the engine is mounted transverse, so the oil has less distance to displace back-and-fort as opposed to side to side.

And yeah the trick is to get a deeper pan and extend the pickup way down... lots of custom fabbing.
 

ballmode

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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: Greenman
Originally posted by: halik
There is a huge issue with oil deprivation on these conversion - bikes lean it during cornering, so the pickup is always submerged in old. When you shove it into a regular car, the oil pans aren't deep enough to keep the pickup in oil during lateral acceleration - people spin bearings like no other on autox and such.

That makes no sense at all. Wouldn't the same thing happen going down a long straight stretch of road? And even if such a thing could occur, wouldn't it be easy enough to add an oil pan spacer and increase the volume?

Understand that I have no knowledge on the subject, I'm just guessing based on what seems logical.

I'm pretty sure you can't pull anywhere near as much Gs under acceleration or braking compared to ~1G in lateral turns, plus the engine is mounted transverse, so the oil has less distance to displace back-and-fort as opposed to side to side.

And yeah the trick is to get a deeper pan and extend the pickup way down... lots of custom fabbing.

He speaks truth...

usually when you brake you aren't running the engine at high RPM's, you clutch in and basically slow down.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Greenman
I wouldn't have thought a Busa motor would produce enough torque for use in a car.

Well, a Haybusa-powered Geo Metro won a recent LeMons race....

:D
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Are you kidding? It's easier to pull G's braking than turning.

Yeah, but bikes brake too, so the engine can deal with that.

That 'busa motor finds its way into everything. I have to wonder how many people add the turbocharger for the >500 hp...I'm sure it's terrible for reliability, but if you're shoving a motorcycle engine into a car you obviously don't really care much about that.
 
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