*HAWT* Yamaha RX-V365 Receiver + Klipsch SW-350 Subwoofer. Both for $350 shipped

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scrubman

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I'm in! Glad I got it before it was gone. I have no idea how good either of those units are but its gotta be at least a fair deal if not a total steal! Thanks!!
 

Ricochet

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The reviews say that the HDMI does not support audio. Really defeats the whole purpose of HDMI. If you can live with that it's a pretty decent deal.
 

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365 is a basic 5.1 dd receiver. Do not expect much from it. Look at a 465 if you want hdmi switching. For this price this is a great deal. Cost of a 365 is probably 130-150 ish.
 

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The reviews say that the HDMI does not support audio. Really defeats the whole purpose of HDMI. If you can live with that it's a pretty decent deal.

Yeah, this is the thing that bugs me the most about ANY A/V receiver with HDMI... they should ALL support getting audio from the HDMI cable (and also provide alternate sources, for some HTPC setups).

Even Onkyos don't all support getting audio over HDMI.

My current setup has a 4x HDMI switch with TOSLink and Coax digital outputs (Monoprice), and it works great for the most part, but my cable DVR and TV don't get along well, and the switch only makes things a bit wonkier (sometimes, I need to power down the switch and re-select the input for my DVR when switching over to it).

I'd like to get a decent A/V receiver that FULLY supports HDMI. I've got a console (Xbox360), HTPC, and cable DVR... all running HDMI, but I can see that most consumers should be getting at least a 4x HDMI capability for decent consumer home theaters. I know people with an Xbox 360, PS3, Upscaling DVD player, cable boxes, and media players (oh wait, maybe that should be 5 HDMI inputs!!) Having to run an extra cable for digital audio is stupid... and you'd run out of inputs pretty quick on many A/V receivers. A single HDMI cable for each component also makes the rat's nest a bit more manageable behind the stack.

/Sorry for the rant... the current state of HDMI support among supposed "home theater" receivers is atrocious.
 

Ricochet

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BenJeremy, I understand your pain. I have an old non-HDMI Denon receiver + 4x HDMI switch without TOSLink outputs. The receiver only allows two TOSLink inputs at any given time despite having 3 physical connections. And I have an Xbox360, PS3, Cable DVR and HTPC. I know having a switch like yours would help me out but I figured I would save the money and wait for a really decent receiver. I have the same experience of having to sometimes turn the switch off/on again for it to detect.
 

scrubman

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That's exactly what I was thinking! Although I will prob wind up keeping the receiver for my PC or the bedroom. ;)
 

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Complaining that an entry level product doesn't have the same features as something that costs 3x more is extremely unrealistic. Two years ago hdmi switching would have set you back 600 or more.
Omg my trailer doesn't have travertine tile in the bathroom or a bide....

If you want hdmi switching you have to pay for it, it's as simple as that. The low price of decent mid range, ie pioneer 1019 denon 590 etc , gets you a ton of features and performance for the money.


Expecting something for nothing is going to leave you extremely disapointed.....
 

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Yeah, this is the thing that bugs me the most about ANY A/V receiver with HDMI... they should ALL support getting audio from the HDMI cable (and also provide alternate sources, for some HTPC setups).

Even Onkyos don't all support getting audio over HDMI.

My current setup has a 4x HDMI switch with TOSLink and Coax digital outputs (Monoprice), and it works great for the most part, but my cable DVR and TV don't get along well, and the switch only makes things a bit wonkier (sometimes, I need to power down the switch and re-select the input for my DVR when switching over to it).

I'd like to get a decent A/V receiver that FULLY supports HDMI. I've got a console (Xbox360), HTPC, and cable DVR... all running HDMI, but I can see that most consumers should be getting at least a 4x HDMI capability for decent consumer home theaters. I know people with an Xbox 360, PS3, Upscaling DVD player, cable boxes, and media players (oh wait, maybe that should be 5 HDMI inputs!!) Having to run an extra cable for digital audio is stupid... and you'd run out of inputs pretty quick on many A/V receivers. A single HDMI cable for each component also makes the rat's nest a bit more manageable behind the stack.

/Sorry for the rant... the current state of HDMI support among supposed "home theater" receivers is atrocious.

Not sure about all receivers but my Onkyo 805 is fed input only using the hdmi and I get audio just fine. I'm using a satellite receiver, roku player, blu ray and hd dvd player with hdmi.
 

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Yeah, this is the thing that bugs me the most about ANY A/V receiver with HDMI... they should ALL support getting audio from the HDMI cable (and also provide alternate sources, for some HTPC setups).

Even Onkyos don't all support getting audio over HDMI.

Heh, I have one such Onkyo. :\

Ahh well, still seems like a decent deal.
 

BenJeremy

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Not sure about all receivers but my Onkyo 805 is fed input only using the hdmi and I get audio just fine. I'm using a satellite receiver, roku player, blu ray and hd dvd player with hdmi.

Yes, the higher-end Onkyos do get audio over HDMI. I believe anything that upscales video over HDMI processes the signal 'properly' does this... I never get the terminology right, I think systems that handle audio have "repeaters" rather than "pass through" but I might have that reversed.

It's just a bit frustrating because pretty much anything below $500 is usually just a pass-through connection with no ability to use the audio feed over HDMI (the switch in the stereo just diverts the electrical signals, and does no processing), which makes the point of "home theater" useless. There is also a dearth of digital inputs on receivers, still, which is baffling, considering the number of devices that use TOSLink and SPDIF.

Don't even get me started on so-called "combo" DVD/VCR decks and the mess involved in using them with an A/V receiver (you'd think the audio and video for both DVD **AND** VCR would operate out of the same outputs!!).

Ah well, the deal on the Klipsch sub seems decent. You don't want to skimp on a good subwoofer. If you can get some money back on the receiver using eBay, than that's cool too.

I just wish audio vendors would get their heads out of their asses and start making receivers that have the minimum sets of features that every family needs. This isn't 1985... turntables, cassette decks, and even VCRs are endangered species in consumer's homes. Carousel CD/DVD players, network devices, media players, DVRs, HTPCs, multiple consoles are far more typical. Onkyo at least has some good offerings, feature-wise (though I've been hearing some reports about quality in the current generation from them). I've owned Yamaha, Pioneer, Sony, Aiwa... but none of them seem to understand what people need these days. Such a shame.
 

manimal

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Yes, the higher-end Onkyos do get audio over HDMI. I believe anything that upscales video over HDMI processes the signal 'properly' does this... I never get the terminology right, I think systems that handle audio have "repeaters" rather than "pass through" but I might have that reversed.

It's just a bit frustrating because pretty much anything below $500 is usually just a pass-through connection with no ability to use the audio feed over HDMI (the switch in the stereo just diverts the electrical signals, and does no processing), which makes the point of "home theater" useless. There is also a dearth of digital inputs on receivers, still, which is baffling, considering the number of devices that use TOSLink and SPDIF.

Don't even get me started on so-called "combo" DVD/VCR decks and the mess involved in using them with an A/V receiver (you'd think the audio and video for both DVD **AND** VCR would operate out of the same outputs!!).

Ah well, the deal on the Klipsch sub seems decent. You don't want to skimp on a good subwoofer. If you can get some money back on the receiver using eBay, than that's cool too.

I just wish audio vendors would get their heads out of their asses and start making receivers that have the minimum sets of features that every family needs. This isn't 1985... turntables, cassette decks, and even VCRs are endangered species in consumer's homes. Carousel CD/DVD players, network devices, media players, DVRs, HTPCs, multiple consoles are far more typical. Onkyo at least has some good offerings, feature-wise (though I've been hearing some reports about quality in the current generation from them). I've owned Yamaha, Pioneer, Sony, Aiwa... but none of them seem to understand what people need these days. Such a shame.

actually 249-300 buys hdmi switching, FYI most consumers dont NEED hdmi switching. Running an optical over from the source doesnt do anything other than simplify wiring or maybe switching of sources.Seriously though bellyaching about features that most people dont even know exists and pretending that your needs are the same as everyone else is a waste of time. This was a hot deal....if this hot deal didnt meet your critera then move along.....
 
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