HAWKING Firewall / Router question (how do i open ports?)

zveruga

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I decided to split my DSL connection with my roommates, so my computer now connects to DSL through a Hawking router. Guess what?? I cant send files through AIM any more. I cant play multiplayer Civ 3. All because of some darn firewall...

I read some posts here and they were talking about opening up ports. How do i do that, and will it help me?


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zveruga

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Can I just unblock ALL ports? I dont care about security. I dont store sensitive info on my machine anyway
 

skyking

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Unblocking all the ports will not necessarily fix AIM file transfer. Some transfer protocols do not work behind a router at all.
 

zveruga

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I cant figure out how to do this with the Hawking router... I looked all over and didnt see an "open port" option
 

JackMDS

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We call it Port Opening but various manufactures use various terminology.

Could be Port mMapping, or Port Frwarding etc.

Look in the Hawking Menu under Local Server.
 

zveruga

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no such option. One screen has the following description:

This menu allows you to map your LAN computers to the WAN Service Port. With this feature, you can map your LAN Servers such as Web Server, E-mail Server, FTP Server etc. to the public WAN IP for remote user access. Here is the list of well-know service port : FTP - 21, Telnet - 23, SMTP- 25, DNS - 53, HTTP - 80, POP3-110. The setting will take effect only after the device resets.

there are also tehse options

DMZ Host



Access Control



Static Route



Save & Restart


Anything worth checking out?
 

JackMDS

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Seems to me that the "Access Control" entry should be the port mapping entry.


AIM Talk:

OUT TCP 4099
IN TCP 5190

Have a good luck.
 

zveruga

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Tried setting up "DMZ" host, but no luck on playing civ3... I think I followed bad advice when I got this router. My friend's linksys has a Security tab and works fine...:(

any Hawking owners can prove me wrong?
 

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This guy didn't seem to have any problems.
here

Dude,
telnet in to that hoe and open your ports, whats the problem!!! This actually sounds like a pretty good product thanks for the reco!
 

zveruga

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Well DMZ host is definately activated, but still no luck in MP gaming. I think it may have to do with my computer's external IP address assigned by verizon, while internal IP is made by the router... can i fix this? Could this cause problems in gaming?
 

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Originally posted by: zveruga
Well DMZ host is definately activated, but still no luck in MP gaming. I think it may have to do with my computer's external IP address assigned by verizon, while internal IP is made by the router... can i fix this? Could this cause problems in gaming?

Naw, that happens with pretty much all routers. Its called NAT (network address translation) and is a good security feature. Even your friends linksys does it.
dont remember how civilization plays multiplayer, do you have to give out IP addresses?
Many games you won't be able to host behind a router/firewall but under normal conditions, you can still JOIN games, you just have to get the other guy to host. As for AIM transfers, this can be a hit or miss. If both of you are behind routers sometimes it just wont work period regardless of what equipment you have.

BTW, some quotes from that link the guy sent a few pages up on the hawking review

As most routers, the Hawkingtech allows you to take one computer from behind the firewall and put it in the DMZ (demilitarized zone). Hawkingtech calls this "to make the computer visible". I explained the reasons, benefits and risks in the Linksys review.

What Linksys calls "port redirection" is called "Local Server Setup" in the Hawkingtech configuration menus. By the way, I liked the configuration menus of the Hawkingtech better, they have a nice Wizard that has one screen with the minimum required configuration values.
Since I use this router now all the time, I of course got all my software to work with it:
web browsing, email, news, ftp, telnet, icq, yahoo and other messengers, vdophone (like netmeeting), a web server, ftp server, pcAnywhere.
 

zveruga

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So what you are saying is that regardless of the settings, some stuff may still not work with ANY router?
 

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Originally posted by: zveruga
So what you are saying is that regardless of the settings, some stuff may still not work with ANY router?

Depends on how you set it up. But in general, hosting games behind a firewall/router is not normally possible (joining is no problem, its just HOSTING that is the problem). HOWEVER, you NORMALLY can MAKE it possible by either doing port forwarding (if you know the ports the game uses), or putting a computer inside the DMZ (which effectivly disables router/firewall/NAT for that computer).

I've hosted a CS server before, all you have to do is open certain ports by using port forwarding.

NAT is why this is the case. It basically only allows requested traffic through, and unrequested traffic gets blocked. So joining games is ok because you send the info out, but hosting is not, because the people trying to join your server that you are hosting are doing traffic that's not requested by you.

Port forwarding is just like mail forwarding. It takes traffic directed towards certain ports on your router and forwards it to a computer for ALL traffic on that port. So for instance, counter strike usually uses UDP port 27015 (and maybe a couple others). If my computer is set at IP of say 192.168.50.5 then I could port forward anything coming in on port 27015 and send it on to my IP thats doing a CS server.
 

zveruga

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Not sure what NAT is, I tried disabling it, and it no longer gave me internet access.... Opening ports didnt work so far. Neither did selecting DMZ. Some games like civ3 are peer to peer so there is no real host. Everyone has ability to boot a player, and you constantly send out info. And AIM still doesnt transfer files.
 

zveruga

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Well I have officially given up on disabling the firewall on my Hawking router. Can anyone suggest to me a CHEAP router that WILL allow me to transfer files, play video games, and in general do everything I would do with a direct internet connection? Or such thing doesnt exist?