Hawken Now on Steam!

[sf101]

http://store.steampowered.com/app/271290/?snr=1_7_15__13

enjoy!

 

[spacelord]

Looks like its not actually available until tomorrow (2/14) at 11am.
but thanks for the heads up!

 

[futurefields]

This game looks kinda cool. Anybody played it? How much is the Pay2Win factor?

PC-only... bet it has better graphics than Titanfall

 

[imaheadcase]

This is a huge pay 2 win game last i heard. I am not sure the exact details around the fan outrage, but someone mentioned they made a mech or weapon that you had to buy that was clearly a advantage.

 

[gothamhunter]

This is a huge pay 2 win game last i heard. I am not sure the exact details around the fan outrage, but someone mentioned they made a mech or weapon that you had to buy that was clearly a advantage.

I disagree;

First, everything CAN be earned using in-game currency.

They have a rotating line-up of the "pay for" mechs every week(?), sort of like the heroes in League of Legends. So, you can try some of the "better" ones without spending money.

I have been MVP plenty of times using the default mech.

The ones you pay for alter the playstyle, but I wouldn't say are inherently better. A lot of people like to choose the one that's more of a Tank, where it can morph into a heavy defense position but the back of it is VERY vulnerable. If you try to go head to head with it, you will lose 100% of the time. So, you flank it, and you win (or at least get it to retreat itself).

It's a great f2p with a cash shop that you can spend IRL money or earned currency.

 

[pontifex]

steam forums seem to say not pay to win

 

[Rhezuss]

I hate Early Access and will never pay for an incomplete game.
Game look cool though and i'll keep an eye on it but will never by it until officially release and if it's good.

 

[smackababy]

I used two nvidia codes for this game ($100 in game credit) and have yet to buy a single thing. It was a decent game, but didn't feel nearly finished enough to put time in.

 

[zerogear]

What's with all the alpha/development games getting released. What happened to polished game releases

 

[zinfamous]

Is this a UT type game with mechs? It looks purdy, but I've never played a mech game, really, and it looks to be pure multiplayer with random matches. Sound accurate?


also, incomplete game, so meh. ....though it's free, which I really have no issue with for incomplete games.

 

[smackababy]

Is this a UT type game with mechs? It looks purdy, but I've never played a mech game, really, and it looks to be pure multiplayer with random matches. Sound accurate?


also, incomplete game, so meh. ....though it's free, which I really have no issue with for incomplete games.

It is an arena shooter. The mechs feel clunky (as intended) and the gameplay isn't terrible. It has been in beta for a good while.

 

[gothamhunter]

If it didnt say incomplete I would have never known it was.

 

[sf101]

Ok i will try to answer as many Hawken Questions as i can here.
Intro - hawken has just finished a long list of beta iteration's And the steam release is the current iteration its been changed alot from the other beta patches. and imho its about as complete as any certified released game on market today but is still being fixed and re-balanced with each patch.

Fist off for those who played the beta's This is going somewhat back to the faster gameplay now of alpha , No fuel needed for dodge , limited item uses, HP pools lowered , Time to kill lowered, turn cap increased a good % , damage rebalanced across the board.

aswell as new maps , mech's introduced depending on what part of beta you played.

As far as pay to win this game is not pay to win. you can Earn every critical item in the game you only have to pay for cosmetics , skins , paintjobs , custom jets , custom repair drones "they do not repair any faster", taunts and holo taunts.

and your starter mech is by no means a sitting duck in any case.



As far as the game goes its a fairly fast paced mech shooter and its quite fun so if your into that sort of thing give it a try.

 

[futurefields]

damn, you gotta buy the 30 dollar bundle to access the free to play game

RIP gaming

 

[TheFamilyMan]

Ok i will try to answer as many Hawken Questions as i can here.
Intro - hawken has just finished a long list of beta iteration's And the steam release is the current iteration its been changed alot from the other beta patches. and imho its about as complete as any certified released game on market today but is still being fixed and re-balanced with each patch.

It is not as complete as any certified released game on market today. It is an early access, alpha/beta game that they are 'hawking' (pun intended) to the masses as an upfront cash grab for an incomplete game. This is a very ugly thing Steam is participating in and I so wish they would have squelched all of this type 'early access' / pay-for-beta gaming.

Fist off for those who played the beta's This is going somewhat back to the faster gameplay now of alpha , No fuel needed for dodge , limited item uses, HP pools lowered , Time to kill lowered, turn cap increased a good % , damage rebalanced across the board.

aswell as new maps , mech's introduced depending on what part of beta you played.

As far as pay to win this game is not pay to win. you can Earn every critical item in the game you only have to pay for cosmetics , skins , paintjobs , custom jets , custom repair drones "they do not repair any faster", taunts and holo taunts.

and your starter mech is by no means a sitting duck in any case.

Still. Not. A. Finished. Game. If the developers can't and won't put their name on it as 'finished', then it isn't finished. If it isn't finished, stop making the player-base pay for it. That is so asinine that we, as the paying customers, seem so willing to not only alpha and beta test their product...many of us seem to be willing to shell out $30 to do so.

As far as the game goes its a fairly fast paced mech shooter and its quite fun so if your into that sort of thing give it a try.

Already have that with MechWarrior...maybe not an entirely 1-for-1 comparison but very very close. Oh, and another thing, they come out *UP FRONT* and say it is F2P and lay out very clearly what can be purchased from in-game store and, if any, gameplay affects.

I'll take that up front honesty and established F2P open-ness over this new pathetic cash grab virus that seems to be so pervasive in the industry today.

 

[Rezist]

I disagree;

First, everything CAN be earned using in-game currency.

They have a rotating line-up of the "pay for" mechs every week(?), sort of like the heroes in League of Legends. So, you can try some of the "better" ones without spending money.

I have been MVP plenty of times using the default mech.

The ones you pay for alter the playstyle, but I wouldn't say are inherently better. A lot of people like to choose the one that's more of a Tank, where it can morph into a heavy defense position but the back of it is VERY vulnerable. If you try to go head to head with it, you will lose 100% of the time. So, you flank it, and you win (or at least get it to retreat itself).

I'd say LoL is pay to win especially since you need the IP for runes and the cheaper champs while some are good usually leave you only able to play a few roles is Hawken like this?
It's a great f2p with a cash shop that you can spend IRL money or earned currency.

 

[sf101]

Its been in beta for like a year and a half its really quite polished whether they put a Finished sign on it or not its quite well done and finished.

mech warrior is terrible in comparison and i really wish people would stop making that argument i've played both and i absolutely loathed mech warrior.

You may make a Argument for the cash shop being a money grab but on the same note they do not expect to wipe everyones accts when this releases and all of the Meteor credit purchases are cosmetics and what not sometimes special seasonal skins ect. I see no reason they cant implement a cash shop for those things now if people want special skins as they would have to wipe accts afterwords if they didn't in order to make any sort of $ on the game otherwise beta players would have free everything.

For a F2P FPS its pretty solid and its only getting more polished.

If you don't like the playstyle fine but i put this post up because i'm sure many others would find it engaging / new and fun to play.

 

[ThinClient]

For still being in beta, it is an INCREDIBLY well polished game. It is in no way a pay to win game. The only people claiming this are people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about and don't actually play the game.

It's a lot of fun. It's a twitch game, a fast FPS.

 

[zinfamous]

It's pretty easy guys: Cash shop does not automatically mean pay to win. If it's purely cosmetic stuff that does nothing to improve your character--stats or unique functional gear that are in no way available otherwise--then it is not pay to win.

if some cheesehead wants to spin 10 dollars to add a shiny flame decal to their robot, fine. Seeing as how this game is FREE, what the hell is wrong with that?

EDIT: Oh...this game is not free to play. LOL wtf--why do people call this F2P when it's $30? and for Beta? FamilyMan is 100% correct. this practice needs to be abolished.

Something for the rest of you: no subscription /= F2P.

This is called buy to play.

 

[smackababy]

It's pretty easy guys: Cash shop does not automatically mean pay to win. If it's purely cosmetic stuff that does nothing to improve your character--stats or unique functional gear that are in no way available otherwise--then it is not pay to win.

if some cheesehead wants to spin 10 dollars to add a shiny flame decal to their robot, fine. Seeing as how this game is FREE, what the hell is wrong with that?

EDIT: Oh...this game is not free to play. LOL wtf--why do people call this F2P when it's $30? and for Beta? FamilyMan is 100% correct. this practice needs to be abolished.

Something for the rest of you: no subscription /= F2P.

This is called buy to play.

Is it actually $30? I have been playing for absoletly no cost for quite some time. Well, I recently uninstalled it, but before then, I have not spent a dime to play it. If the Steam release now requires additional money, I stand corrected.

EDIT: Just looked it up on Steam and it is, in fact, $30. Looks like it isn't F2P anymore. I can kind of "understand" if paying $30 gives you $30 in game credit, I suppose that is a bet less "evil", but still unacceptable.

 

[zinfamous]

Is it actually $30? I have been playing for absoletly no cost for quite some time. Well, I recently uninstalled it, but before then, I have not spent a dime to play it. If the Steam release now requires additional money, I stand corrected.

EDIT: Just looked it up on Steam and it is, in fact, $30. Looks like it isn't F2P anymore. I can kind of "understand" if paying $30 gives you $30 in game credit, I suppose that is a bet less "evil", but still unacceptable.

regardless of what they want to call it, it is $30 to play. I don't care about that, in the end. I care that they want you to pay $30 to do their beta testing.

I like no subscription games (it's a terrible model, anyway). I have no problem with cosmetic cash shops, either--again, great way to ditch the sub model, because you know idiots will spend their money on dumb stuff, and many will do it just to toss some money to the devs, which is fine.

lol--I just added my own tag to the game in store: NOT FREE

already top tags are free to play and F2P (yeah, I get that it may have been F2T(test) for a lot of people, but that seems to be no longer true) I hope steam has a way to make tags obsolete.

 

[imaheadcase]

The tag yesterday was all Pay to Win. hehe

 

[gothamhunter]

Does anyone read the description?

During this initial phase of Early Access, new pilots will be required to purchase a bundle in order to play. We felt this was necessary to help control our server load and offer the very best experience possible to all players. If you're a current pilot, please check your inbox as you should have already received a Steam Key via email!

And from the discussion forums:

Why are they doing this system, when Hawken is a free to play game?

The reason isn't to take all your money (though I am sure the developers appreciate any support you give). Access is gated through this bundle in order to have a slower flow of new players coming into the game, so that their servers don't crash, and everyone playing can enjoy the game. This is common practice with f2p games moving to Steam - if you need an example, look at Loadout, where they did a very similar thing to ensure server stability.

When will Hawken be free to access again?

Hawken will leave Early Access when it drops the beta tag. They are intending to be able to leave beta in Q1 of this year, and they are still looking to be on track to do so. Once Hawken is no longer in beta and on Steam Early Access, it will no longer have a bundle gating mechanism.

 

[Lil Frier]

No amount of quality will make me buy this game. Seeing a price tag on "Early Access" games just makes me mad. I don't like the thought of paying for a game that a developer is not obligated to finish. I know it's VERY rare that you would see a developer abandon a game like that, but I still hate the principal of it.

If this goes free-to-play again, I'll probably check it out. However, $30 to test it, even if it's to avoid excessive server strain, is asinine.

 

[Elcs]

Played this a while back. Not worth the bandwidth, nevermind the money.