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Having Trouble W/ A Hard Drive

BrettCB

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I recently built a new system and I went with a 80GB WD SATA drive as my main hard drive. However, I had an older IDE WD 80GB drive that contained a lot of data which I planned on keeping by installing the older drive as a slave. I went ahead and installed XP Professional on the new drive without a hitch and then installed the secondary drive as a slave. On boot-up for the first time with the old drive installed I got an error that said Windows has shut down due to possible damage due to hardware conflict. I knew at once it was the hard drive because that was the only new hardware I'd installed. I took that out and the system booted up fine once again.

I have an extensive music collection and other data that I'd really like to get off this drive but I can't seem to get the system to boot up with it installed. It does have an older version of Windows on it, XP Home edition. Anything I can do to get to this data?
 

furballi

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Set the drives as Master/Slave. You may want to create an extended logical partition in the old drive and migrate the stuffs that you want to keep there, since there can only be ONE active primary partition at a time.
 

BrettCB

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I've already set up the drivers as Master/Slave. How do I go about partioning the old drive? I'm assuming i'll have to use FDisk in MS DOS?
 

L00PY

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Actually, I believe for your WD IDE drive to exist by itself with your WD SATA, you'd need to set your IDE drive as a master. There is no longer a master/slave relationship with SATA (was there a SATA Emancipation Proclamation?) and that could be why XP Pro complained. Try removing the jumpers on the IDE drive / setting it to master and trying again.

[edit]Also, make sure you've got the boot order to hit the SATA drive first after you reconfig the drives.[/edit]

Of course, if by some strange reason you're using a SATA/IDE adapter with that new drive, that'd change things. But I don't suspect that's the case.

 

junkerman123

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Could try booting up in linux, just to see what happens. Try booting up slax from RAM and mounting the other hard drives.
 

BrettCB

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Alright, got into Windows XP now. Just had to do what Loopy said and set the IDE drive as Master. XP then recognized the HD. I've gone into Disk Management to try to partition the drive but all I get is "Delete Partition". In order to access this drive I have to make a new extended partition?

I'm going to get some dinner, but thanks for the help you guys.
 

L00PY

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You shouldn't have to mess around with the Disk Management. In fact, you shouldn't need to adjust anything at all. Just fire up Windows Explorer and find the hard drive. It'll probably be assigned as a local drive to D,E, or F (depending on how many opticals / USB keys / you're using).

[edit]If you want to keep the drive installed in your machine, you can use Disk Management to reassign the letters. Unless you're reformatting and repartitioning the old drive, stay out of Disk Management -- playing around in there without a clear idea of what you're doing is a real easy way to hose your install.[/edit]
 

furballi

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Ok...you probably set it to CS before, since MASTER/SLAVE didn't work before. Thought you had two PATA drives and one SATA. My bad. A SATA drive does not come with a jumper block.
 

BrettCB

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That is what I couldn't figure out, in Explorer the new drive isn't showing up. However, under disk management I'm able to see the drive. That is why I thought I had to make a new partition on the IDE drive.

EDIT: Also, when I see the drive under Disk Management the options to create a new partition, change drive letters, etc. are all greyed out. The only option I have is to delete the partition. I would do this, but I'm afraid I would lose all the data I have on the drive.
 

BrettCB

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No one able to help here? I really need the data on this drive, it's killing me because I can see the drive in the Device Manager and everything but it doesn't appear under My Computer... Any help would be appreciated. Thanks In Advance.
 

GeekDrew

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What file system does disk manager report that the partition is using? Does it say that the partition is healthy?
 

furballi

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You need partitition magic or bootit ng to create another extended logical partition AFTER the primary C active partition. Remove the new drive and install bootit ng on the old drive. Now create another extended logical partition after the C primary partition and transfer your data to this newly created partition. Set the C primary partition to INACTIVE. Shut down PC and add the new hard drive. Reboot and the new hard drive will detect the extended logical partition in the old hard drive.

You can try bootit ng for 30 days...long enough for you to partition and transfer your data.
 

BrettCB

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Alright, went ahead and downloaded BootIt NG and loaded it onto my keydrive, however, when I disconnected my new hard drive and configured BIOS I was sent to a screen that says "Windows Failed To Start On Last Attempt." I had it boot into Safe Mode w/ Networking but upon trying to boot the computer simply restarted. This happened multiple times and each time I booted up I picked a different setting and got the same result.

I'm starting to wonder if something has gone currupt on the partition? Is there a program I can use to repair it? Or do I need to do something totally different?
 

BrettCB

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Alright, ended up getting Partition Magic. The problem is, I can't do anything with the old drive, obviously something has been corrupted. I'm not able to create new partitions, browse the partition, nothing. The only thing I'm able to do is format or delete the old hard drive. Looks like I'm going to lose all the data that is on the drive because I'm flat out of ideas.
 

ach52

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Just a thought, before you trash your IDE drive, disconnect your SATA drive and boot, (provided it has a working OS), from your original, (IDE),drive the save your important data to CD 0r DVD. Once you have done that, you can do whatever you want to the IDE drive