Having difficulty with choosing MoBo

Zap

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WTF man, you're too impatient. Go take your meds!

Seriously you asked a question and expect it to be answered in 15 minutes? You take "instant gratification" to new heights. Some people only check these message boards once a day. Some people only come here once a week. Give it some time, man.

I considered giving you a "time out" by not answering your question now and coming back at a later time to answer it, but not only would that make me waste my time by posting an extra time in this thread, but I'd have to remember something, plus it would be as silly of me to pull that stunt as it was of you to expect an answer in 15 minutes.

ANSWER:

Dual channel is not possible with socket 754. The Geforce6100 chipset is capable of dual channel when built with a socket 939 on the board, but not with socket 754 (both sockets can be hooked up to any chipset capable of 1000MHz HT). In the case of the Epox board, it is clearly socket 754 and thus single channel, so it was a typo.

The "best" out of all those at the link IMO is the Biostar Tforce6100 (NOT the Biostar Geforce6100, big difference).

Read Zap's mini review of the Biostar Tforce6100

The board has the feature you want, is still within spitting distance of the cheaper boards in price and works as well as any others. There are two possible benefits of this board that makes it worth the extra few bucks. First, higher quality components (such as capacitors, extra mosfets) means potentially better stability and/or longer life. Second, if your brother is thus inclined and his CPU is willing, the Biostar Tforce board is an extraordinary overclocker.

Oh yeah, one other thing is that the Biostar board is passively cooled, so no worries about instability/dying motherboard if/when the chipset fan dies. Chipset fans are very, very prone to dying.
 

SpeedZealot369

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Originally posted by: Zap
WTF man, you're too impatient. Go take your meds!

Seriously you asked a question and expect it to be answered in 15 minutes? You take "instant gratification" to new heights. Some people only check these message boards once a day. Some people only come here once a week. Give it some time, man.

I considered giving you a "time out" by not answering your question now and coming back at a later time to answer it, but not only would that make me waste my time by posting an extra time in this thread, but I'd have to remember something, plus it would be as silly of me to pull that stunt as it was of you to expect an answer in 15 minutes.

ANSWER:

Dual channel is not possible with socket 754. The Geforce6100 chipset is capable of dual channel when built with a socket 939 on the board, but not with socket 754 (both sockets can be hooked up to any chipset capable of 1000MHz HT). In the case of the Epox board, it is clearly socket 754 and thus single channel, so it was a typo.

The "best" out of all those at the link IMO is the Biostar Tforce6100 (NOT the Biostar Geforce6100, big difference).

Read Zap's mini review of the Biostar Tforce6100

The board has the feature you want, is still within spitting distance of the cheaper boards in price and works as well as any others. There are two possible benefits of this board that makes it worth the extra few bucks. First, higher quality components (such as capacitors, extra mosfets) means potentially better stability and/or longer life. Second, if your brother is thus inclined and his CPU is willing, the Biostar Tforce board is an extraordinary overclocker.

Oh yeah, one other thing is that the Biostar board is passively cooled, so no worries about instability/dying motherboard if/when the chipset fan dies. Chipset fans are very, very prone to dying.

Thanks, sorry about that but i susually get a pretty quick anwer... sorry anyway.

Would a mini atx motherboard have any problems fitting into a regular atx case?
 

Zap

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Yes, micro ATX boards generally fit into ATX cases. There are also a lot of really nice mATX cases these days.
 

SpeedZealot369

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And what about the 24-20 pin power supply issue? I have a antec 480w power supply so how do I check if I have 24pin power connector or 20pin one?

Thanks.
 

Zap

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Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
And what about the 24-20 pin power supply issue? I have a antec 480w power supply so how do I check if I have 24pin power connector or 20pin one?

Even if the board works with 20 pin (some do), highly recommended to use a native (and quality) 24 pin unit. I think the "II" models have 24 pin, such as the "True Power II" and "Smart Power II."
 

SpeedZealot369

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So would a 20-24 adapter work? I read that the extra pins are probably for the PCIe, so I'm afriad to do anything to kill my x1900xt. And if an adapter would work are there any problems associated with using it?

Thanks.
 

Zap

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It's always best to not use adaptors if possible. If you have the older power supply, you will be using TWO adaptors, one for 20-24 pin and a second one for molex to PCI-E 6 pin for the video card.

If you really want to avoid buying a new PSU, the Antec should be quality enough to handle it, but it's up to you. Note, "should" and not "will."
 

Budarow

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Originally posted by: SpeedZealot369
So would a 20-24 adapter work? I read that the extra pins are probably for the PCIe, so I'm afriad to do anything to kill my x1900xt. And if an adapter would work are there any problems associated with using it?

Thanks.

How many amps on the 12V rail for your Antec 480W? If it's 28A or more, it'd most likely be okay with your 1900xt. I'd buy another PS before I'd use an adaptor. I really haven't heard of any mobos (with 24-pin ATX sockets) having problems with 20-pin ATX PS' EXCEPT recent DFI boards.
 

LOUISSSSS

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the adapter should be fine as long as u dont have a high powered system. and a decently reliable psu. ^^budarow, with all your knowledge of psu's shouldn't u consider getting a new psu? hows that shiney housing for that ULTRA X-CONNECT pos i mean psu