Having a problem with all games increased flickering on distant textures/shadows

futurefields

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It seems I am noticing all my games are having issues with rendering distant shadows or textures. I am noticing the issue in Crysis 3, GTA4, Bioshock Infinite, Saints Row The Third, Borderlands 2.

Rig is in my sig. Running Catalyst Omega drivers. I've tried dropping to stock settings, it doesn't help the issue.
 

futurefields

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Temps are fine? Great even. They never go above 60c. Running benchmarks, everything seems normal.

I'm noticing it in Skyrim now too, the mountains in the distance flicker whenever I move.
 

futurefields

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Just wanted to bump this again because I am sure there is a problem with my setup.

All games are showing much increased flickering. WHenever I stop moving it goes away, as soon as I start to move the mouse, I am getting this weird almost like temporal aliasing on distant objects only (thats the weird part, I feel like if it were a hardware problem, it would be showing up everywhere, not just distant objects)

going to try a driver reinstall
 

destrekor

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Just wanted to bump this again because I am sure there is a problem with my setup.

All games are showing much increased flickering. WHenever I stop moving it goes away, as soon as I start to move the mouse, I am getting this weird almost like temporal aliasing on distant objects only (thats the weird part, I feel like if it were a hardware problem, it would be showing up everywhere, not just distant objects)

going to try a driver reinstall

If it has been increasing as of late in the very same games at the very same settings with nothing else changing, I'd be leaning towards hardware fault of some sort.

Do you have Afterburner or any similar software installed? Specifically with MSI Afterburner, there is Kombustor as an optional component. Any kind of basic benchmarking utility such as Kombustor or Furmark will help show you if your card is failing almost right away. You may either experience full crashes and lock-ups, or if nothing that extreme, you would experience obvious memory corruption such as artifacts.

I'd grab Furmark immediately if you haven't either tool already on hand, and proceed from there.

Is your card still under warranty?
 

futurefields

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Specifically test with Furmark. That will stress video memory and corruption is very easy to spot.

Should I do the GPU Stress Test or GPU Benchmark: 1080?

I already did the Benchmark 1080. It completed without any errors that came up, but I did notice, in the distance the line patterns I am getting the same aliased/moire effect I am seeing in games. I wish I knew how to capture a video of it.
 

destrekor

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The free version of fraps will let you record a 30 second video if I recall correctly.

I have not personally used Furmark in a long time. I believe the Stress Test would be more likely to produce errors.
 

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Pottuvoi

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Video:
http://youtu.be/ac3--pHPgjg
Please play it full screen to see the full extent of the flickering!
Z-fighting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-fighting
http://outerra.blogspot.fi/search/label/depth buffer

Another video this time featuring GTA4
http://youtu.be/yQ6La2s41BM

please watch full screen 1080p to see all the flickering
Normal aliasing, shadow and spatial.
You chose one of the places in game which is filled with very thin polygons.
Also affects shadows as shadows can be thinner than pixel and if shadow algorithm doesn't take this into an account you get aliasing.
 
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futurefields

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After further testing I am convinced something is up with my setup. Every game is showing much increased z-fighting issues. I got home from work too late today but tommorow I am going to reinstall drivers and try some things on software end, if that fails Im just gonna RMA the card since it only has 1 month left under warranty.
 

Gloomy

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Definitely looks abnormal in that Bioshock clip you posted, I don't remember that from my playthrough (and I have an AMD card aswell). Should RMA the card just to be safe, though I can't say this is the typical kind of artifact I associate with a faulty GPU.
 

destrekor

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After further testing I am convinced something is up with my setup. Every game is showing much increased z-fighting issues. I got home from work too late today but tommorow I am going to reinstall drivers and try some things on software end, if that fails Im just gonna RMA the card since it only has 1 month left under warranty.

This is the stage of troubleshooting that is the biggest pain in the rear. Sometimes driver conflicts and other issues go so deep that it can take forever to correctly determine the cause, if ever.

Try "clean boot" (disabling every item under startup (run: msconfig) except for Microsoft-specific items), this can help determine if some software is causing a problem. New versions of software, even something that seems benign, can wreck havoc in the strangest of ways. I think my main issue a year or so ago with BF3 crashing was due to basically a driver/resource conflict thanks to my Razer keyboard driver.
Disable things like Setpoint or LGS if you use Logitech peripherals.
Uninstall all GPU, Logitech, and perhaps even Audio drivers in Safemode using driver cleaning programs.
I can no longer recommend Driver Sweeper's replacement, Driver Fusion, as it installs some crap.
A utility called DDU (Display Driver Uninstaller) can remove much of the problem drivers from AMD, Nvidia, and Intel.
CCleaner is also good to help get rid of registry leftovers after uninstalling any of the above noted drivers.

I'm typing in a rush right now, as I'm tired. If you need clarification on anything, ask and I can shed some more light on this tomorrow.
I might come back with some basic tips I forgot to mention.

If you are not like me and don't mind formatting and starting over, if you don't make much progress on this, that's the ideal way to get rid of some of these deep issues. If you are like me, you may need to prepare to spend perhaps months getting things set right again, depending on how long it takes to basically stumble upon the solution after trying everything else.
 

Pottuvoi

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Test old drivers as well.
Driver optimizations can results incorrect image. (in this case bad format for z-buffer.)
 

futurefields

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Tried older 14.4 drivers, also tried downclocking to 800mhz still getting these issues. Put a support ticket in with Sapphire.