Have you noticed that Star Trek weapons are . . .

apoppin

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. . . well, primitive?

From the first series Star Trek to Voyager we have the same battle scene:



Tuvok (Spock, whoever): "They are charging weapons"

Captain: "Red Alert".

Captain: "Target their weapons, Helm: Evasive maneuvers; Fire"

Ok, this same scene is repeated over and over (camera shakes; "shields down 13 percent").



Wouldn't you think by the 24th century, we'd have better weapons and improved speed of command communication? Already, the military is working on targeting scanners based on "eye-movement" (much faster reaction time than a "joystick"). And "thought-based" commands and brain/computer interfaces are being studied .
 

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Originally posted by: Beau6183
They haven't found a cure for balding or the common cold by then either....

Besides, it builds the drama :D

no, they had, check out kirk in the last movie he was in.
 

Fritzo

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Yeah...thought commands would make for a great TV show. A bunch of people on the bridge, totally silent and staring straight ahead, while things start blowing up around them. Nahhhhh...
 

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Drama? this is sci-fi - an exercise in imagination.

Don't you think the Borg - who have assimilated SO many species - would have better warriors than their clunky drones that are constantly outshot by the humans?

Or the Enterprises' computer has never "risen above its programming" like Voyager's doctor?

Perhaps, "going boldly where NO one has gone before" would mean visiting a lot of completely uninhabited planets?


There is a lot of MODERN sci-fi that address this - i.e. "living" ships that bond with their crew. Don 't you think perhaps Star Trek needs a "refresh"?
 

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Originally posted by: Gunbuster
Get the book In Death Ground by David Weber, 640 pages of ships blowing up
Or track down the Gunbuster tapes :) (I loved the final black & white episode, very poignant.)
 

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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Yeah...thought commands would make for a great TV show. A bunch of people on the bridge, totally silent and staring straight ahead, while things start blowing up around them. Nahhhhh...

that is funny...would be a sucky show
 

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Farscape has the pilot ship bond thingi. Enders Game takes command and control of combat to interesting heights
 

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Fritzo
Yeah...thought commands would make for a great TV show. A bunch of people on the bridge, totally silent and staring straight ahead, while things start blowing up around them. Nahhhhh...

that is funny...would be a sucky show

If the Star Trek writers continue with their writers/imagination block - it might turn out this way. However, a healthy dose of "creativity" could make for some really good sci-fi (instead of the " 'Wild West' in Space" concept). ;)

 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Farscape has the pilot ship bond thingi. Enders Game takes command and control of combat to interesting heights

Hell, Babylon 5 did it over 5 years ago! The Shadows fused telepaths with their ships (and even had one episode where the ship went "insane" and Sheridan had to use the White Star to destroy it in Jupiter's atmosphere). The Vorlon's ships were themselves intelligent symbionts.

Star Trek is just plain retarded: What the hell are "photon torpedos", "transphasic torpedos", or even "phasers", anyway? And why do they bother equipping "away teams" with phasers anyway? They always, always fail due to enemy interference or lack of power, or the Borg just "adapt"... The Federation couldn't run a war to save it's life; a little "low tech" thermonuclear mines or projectile weapons would go a long way toward reducing the Dominion/Borg/whoever to rubble. Not to mention intelligent tactics: Even after 30 years, Star Trek still hasn't figured out that space is three-dimensional.
 

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Farscape has the pilot ship bond thingi. Enders Game takes command and control of combat to interesting heights

Hell, Babylon 5 did it over 5 years ago! The Shadows fused telepaths with their ships (and even had one episode where the ship went "insane" and Sheridan had to use the White Star to destroy it in Jupiter's atmosphere). The Vorlon's ships were themselves intelligent symbionts.

Star Trek is just plain retarded: What the hell are "photon torpedos", "transphasic torpedos", or even "phasers", anyway? And why do they bother equipping "away teams" with phasers anyway? They always, always fail due to enemy interference or lack of power, or the Borg just "adapt"... The Federation couldn't run a war to save it's life; a little "low tech" thermonuclear mines or projectile weapons would go a long way toward reducing the Dominion/Borg/whoever to rubble. Not to mention intelligent tactics: Even after 30 years, Star Trek still hasn't figured out that space is three-dimensional.

(at least 3 dimensional) :)


Thank-you! Someone HAS noticed. ;)

:D

Well, I'm off to real surfing (waves are UP). Catch you later . . .
 

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A lot has to do with the audience. Babylon 5 wasn't dumbed down as much as Star Trek because their core audience was not as mainstream. They have to write Star Trek to make it easier for Joe and Jane Q. Public to understand what's going on.

Believable, innovative mind-opening sci-fi is not often found on screen....you must go to book form.
 

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Don't you think the Borg - who have assimilated SO many species - would have better warriors than their clunky drones that are constantly outshot by the humans?

Outshot? I recall that the humans could shoot two, three drones, after that, they have adapted. Just watch First Contact.

Or the Enterprises' computer has never "risen above its programming" like Voyager's doctor?

If I remember, the computer did just that in the episode "Emergence"
 

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Wooooooooo, everybody stay calm, it appears we have a nerd leak in the building.

You may experience cringing, loss of breath, and the acute desire to laugh at someone.

Stay calm, help is on the way.
 

Moonbeam

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A nerd leak? Ough oh, sounds like somebody pissed off Scotty of in Engineering.
 

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I believe the scientific definition of a photon torpedo (based on my phyiscs class) was en electomagneticly charged object that goes at the speed of light. In the case of star trek, it goes at the speed of light and is housed with matter/anti matter.
 

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Originally posted by: Nemesis77
Originally posted by: apoppin
Don't you think the Borg - who have assimilated SO many species - would have better warriors than their clunky drones that are constantly outshot by the humans?

Outshot? I recall that the humans could shoot two, three drones, after that, they have adapted. Just watch First Contact.

The Borg adapted quickly but - for warriors - move as slow as molassis

 

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Originally posted by: Balthazar
Wooooooooo, everybody stay calm, it appears we have a nerd leak in the building.

You may experience cringing, loss of breath, and the acute desire to laugh at someone.

Stay calm, help is on the way.

hahahah
 

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Why doesn't the Federation carry regular guns on their ships for Borg attacks? I guess that would be too logical so they can't do that.