Have you ever wondered?

[DRDEATH]

Jesus

 

[DRDEATH]

No replies because you cannot deny??? It's sad these facts aren't embraced by the media.... "Money mongers".... America... the WORLD would be a better place. That is undeniable.......

 

[MacBaine]

God does not exist

This should get the flames rolling!

 

[samgau]

Geez... not another one of these threads.... but seriously, whoever compiled the info on that page is in real need to go back to school... nuff said

 

[pyonir]

Originally posted by: samgau
Geez... not another one of these threads....

what? You don't like beating dead horses?

 

[Cyberian]

I'll go get extra popcorn for this one!

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: Cyberian
I'll go get extra popcorn for this one!

No butter on mine, please

 

[Ryan]

Originally posted by: DRDEATH
No replies because you cannot deny??? It's sad these facts aren't embraced by the media.... "Money mongers".... America... the WORLD would be a better place. That is undeniable.......

I think you're ignorant for thinking that these are facts. Talk about a biased view.

 

[tweakmm]

Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.

hahaha

You're kidding right? Did you even read the link that you posted?

 

[Jhill]

There are more Religious threads here than cheesecakes in Anna Nicole Smiths refrigerator.

Edit: OK maybe not THAT many religious threads here, but you get the point

 

[MacBaine]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.

hahaha

You're kidding right?

I... I think he's serious!

 

[Eli]

LOL...

I seriously hope you don't believe any of that garbage.

I find this amusing,

The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 104,478,296

So? Does that mean it's impossible? LOL....

I'm neither creationist nor evolutionist, but the 10 points on that site are weak.

 

[Kaervak]

Oh great, you again. This thread should get massively stupid rather quickly.

 

[DRDEATH]

Laugh if you will.... but The conflict between Palestine and Israel and Jerusalem/The temple mound have been in the bible since it has was written....Something thats on the news every day......That is just one of the many signs God/the Bible says to look for in the last days.... Not to mention this whole Islam deal Jihad/Holy war The world is on a crash course for destruction, personally I think it is undeniable.


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Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.
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Uhh, are you a scientist? I'ld like to see you find something to dispute that?!?!?! :frown:

 

[DRDEATH]

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Good for you.... It takes more faith to believe God doesn't exist, than it does to believe he does.




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[Ryan]

Originally posted by: DRDEATH
Laugh if you will.... but The conflict between Palestine and Israel and Jerusalem/The temple mound have been in the bible since it has was written....Something thats on the news every day......That is just one of the many signs God/the Bible says to look for in the last days.... Not to mention this whole Islam deal Jihad/Holy war The world is on a crash course for destruction, personally I think it is undeniable. Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Uhh, are you a scientist? I'ld like to see you find something to dispute that?!?!?! :frown:

Are you by any chance from the back woods of Alabama, and is this your first venture into the real world?

 

[Ronstang]

Laugh if you will.... but The conflict between Palestine and Israel and Jerusalem/The temple mound have been in the bible since it has was written....Something thats on the news every day......That is just one of the many signs God/the Bible says to look for in the last days.... Not to mention this whole Islam deal Jihad/Holy war The world is on a crash course for destruction, personally I think it is undeniable.

Well you better get to praying then.....I'm going back to playing Medal Of Honor.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DRDEATH
Laugh if you will.... but The conflict between Palestine and Israel and Jerusalem/The temple mound have been in the bible since it has was written....Something thats on the news every day......That is just one of the many signs God/the Bible says to look for in the last days.... Not to mention this whole Islam deal Jihad/Holy war The world is on a crash course for destruction, personally I think it is undeniable.


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Decay of Earth's Magnetic Field... Dr. Thomas Barnes, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Texas at El Paso, has published the definitive work in this field.4 Scientific observations since 1829 have shown that the earth's magnetic field has been measurably decaying at an exponential rate, demonstrating its half-life to be approximately 1,400 years. In practical application its strength 20,000 years ago would approximate that of a magnetic star. Under those conditions many of the atoms necessary for life processes could not form. These data demonstrate that earth's entire history is young, within a few thousand of years.
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Uhh, are you a scientist? I'ld like to see you find something to dispute that?!?!?! :frown:

My dad is one of you religious fundy types. He's been waiting for the world to end for the last 35 years. Do you realize that people have always said "These are the last days..."? The Bible is only 2,000 years old. The conflict in Israel and the fact that the Bible talks about it is not proof of God.

The Earth's magnetic field.. Um, hello? It's saying the Earth is only 20,000 years old, at the most. It doesen't take a rocket scientist to know that is false. Radio carbon dating, anyone? Fossils? ...Brains(do you have any)? It's easy to ignore the things you need to in order to "prove" something.

<-- Believes in God .. but that doesen't mean Evolution is false. Open your eyes, buddy.

 

[DRDEATH]

The Bible is only 2,000 years old. The conflict in Israel and the fact that the Bible talks about it is not proof of God.

True but it hasn't been over The TEMPLE MOUND untill very recently ....son That is the Missing piece to YOUR puzzle


Q]The earth's magnetic field.. Um, hello? It's saying the Earth is only 20,000 years old, a the most. It doesen't take a rocket scientist to know that is false. Radio carbon dating, anyone?[/quote]



Subject: Carbon Dating

A less-common form of the carbon atom, carbon-14, is used today by scientists as a method to date once-living organisms. Many people believe that carbon dating disproves the Biblical time scale of history. However, because of the difficulties with current C14 dating techniques, the dates produced have been shown to be faulty.

Cabon-14 is produced in the upper atmosphere by action of cosmic rays. One the C 14 has been formed, by converting nitrogen-14 into carbon-14, it behaves like ordinary carbon-12, combining with oxygen to give carbon dioxide, and freely cycling through the cells of all plants and animals. Carbon-14 is used for a dating material because once it has been formed, C14 begins to decay radioactively back to nitrogen-14, at a rate of change that can be measured. As soon as an organism dies, the C14 atoms which decay are no longer replaced by new ones through respiration. Consequently, the ratio of C14 to C12 in that once-living organism decreases as time goes on. The problem with the carbon dating method is?scientists can not be sure of what the C14/C12 ratio was when the organism died. Carbon dating assumes that the ratio has remained constant; however, events, such as the industrial revolution, are known to have raised C12 levels. Other possible factors, such as the presence of a water canopy, would have lowered the amount of C14 in the pre-Flood world. Because pre-Flood specimens had so little carbon-14 in them, some might appear to have been decaying for tens of thousands of years. Also, the decay of the earth?s magnetic field would have direct effects on C14 level, again, giving artificially old ages the farther you go back in time. Finally, carbon dating has been shown untrustworthy with some present day aquatic specimens that were concluded to be thousands of years old. For example, the shells of living snails? were carbon dated and showed that the snails had died 27,000 years ago. Other specimens have been carbon dated more than once, each time producing a different date varying by thousands of years. In overview, we see that the radiocarbon dating method is certainly no embarrassment to the Biblical creationist who believes in a young earth. In fact, when all data, such as the decay of the magnetic field and the canopy, is taken into accord, carbon dating seems to support a young earth.


As your Father would say Open your eyes Buddy.........................................

 

[stormbv]

I wonder, wonder....whooo oooh oooh, who wrote the book of love?

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: DRDEATH
Q]The earth's magnetic field.. Um, hello? It's saying the Earth is only 20,000 years old, a the most. It doesen't take a rocket scientist to know that is false. Radio carbon dating, anyone?

Uhh, are you a scientist? I'ld like to see you find something to dispute that?!?!?!

Subject: Carbon Dating

A less-common form of the carbon atom, carbon-14, is used today by scientists as a method to date once-living organisms. Many people believe that carbon dating disproves the Biblical time scale of history. However, because of the difficulties with current C14 dating techniques, the dates produced have been shown to be faulty.

Cabon-14 is produced in the upper atmosphere by action of cosmic rays. One the C 14 has been formed, by converting nitrogen-14 into carbon-14, it behaves like ordinary carbon-12, combining with oxygen to give carbon dioxide, and freely cycling through the cells of all plants and animals. Carbon-14 is used for a dating material because once it has been formed, C14 begins to decay radioactively back to nitrogen-14, at a rate of change that can be measured. As soon as an organism dies, the C14 atoms which decay are no longer replaced by new ones through respiration. Consequently, the ratio of C14 to C12 in that once-living organism decreases as time goes on. The problem with the carbon dating method is?scientists can not be sure of what the C14/C12 ratio was when the organism died. Carbon dating assumes that the ratio has remained constant; however, events, such as the industrial revolution, are known to have raised C12 levels. Other possible factors, such as the presence of a water canopy, would have lowered the amount of C14 in the pre-Flood world. Because pre-Flood specimens had so little carbon-14 in them, some might appear to have been decaying for tens of thousands of years. Also, the decay of the earth?s magnetic field would have direct effects on C14 level, again, giving artificially old ages the farther you go back in time. Finally, carbon dating has been shown untrustworthy with some present day aquatic specimens that were concluded to be thousands of years old. For example, the shells of living snails? were carbon dated and showed that the snails had died 27,000 years ago. Other specimens have been carbon dated more than once, each time producing a different date varying by thousands of years. In overview, we see that the radiocarbon dating method is certainly no embarrassment to the Biblical creationist who believes in a young earth. In fact, when all data, such as the decay of the magnetic field and the canopy, is taken into accord, carbon dating seems to support a young earth.


As your Father would say Open your eyes Buddy.........................................[/quote]Let me guess, you got that off the same site you posted in the first post?

I'm not claiming to have all the answers. The fact is, we don't know a lot. We still have a lot to learn.

Are you a scientist? Can you confirm any of the bunk that fundamentalist sites spew? Or do you just trust it blindly because it fits with what you believe?

My dad is smart enough to know that the world is older than 20,000 years. That's just stupidity. 20,00 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things. If you knew anything about geology, you would know that thought is garbage.

What about dinosaur and other fossils? The Grand Canyon? 20,000 years is not enough time. It is insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

Like I said, I believe in God, but God does not disprove science. If you believe that it does, that is your loss.

 

[Eli]

By the way, right back atcha:

There are three principal isotopes of carbon which occur naturally - C12, C13 (both stable) and C14 (unstable or radioactive). These isotopes are present in the following amounts C12 - 98.89%, C13 - 1.11% and C14 - 0.00000000010%. Thus, one carbon 14 atom exists in nature for every 1,000,000,000,000 C12 atoms in living material. The radiocarbon method is based on the rate of decay of the radioactive or unstable carbon isotope 14 (14C), which is formed in the upper atmosphere through the effect of cosmic ray neutrons upon nitrogen 14. The reaction is:


14N + n => 14C + p
(Where n is a neutron and p is a proton).
The 14C formed is rapidly oxidised to 14CO2 and enters the earth's plant and animal lifeways through photosynthesis and the food chain. The rapidity of the dispersal of C14 into the atmosphere has been demonstrated by measurements of radioactive carbon produced from thermonuclear bomb testing. 14C also enters the Earth's oceans in an atmospheric exchange and as dissolved carbonate (the entire 14C inventory is termed the carbon exchange reservoir (Aitken, 1990)). Plants and animals which utilise carbon in biological foodchains take up 14C during their lifetimes. They exist in equilibrium with the C14 concentration of the atmosphere, that is, the numbers of C14 atoms and non-radioactive carbon atoms stays approximately the same over time. As soon as a plant or animal dies, they cease the metabolic function of carbon uptake; there is no replenishment of radioactive carbon, only decay. There is a useful diagrammatic representation of this process given here

Libby, Anderson and Arnold (1949) first discovered that this decay occurs at a constant rate. They found that after 5568 years, half the C14 in the original sample will have decayed and after another 5568 years, half of that remaining material will have decayed, and so on (see figure 1 below). The half-life (t 1/2) is the name given to this value which Libby measured at 5568±30 years. This became known as the Libby half-life. After 10 half-lives, there is a very small amount of radioactive carbon present in a sample. At about 50 - 60 000 years, then, the limit of the technique is reached (beyond this time, other radiometric techniques must be used for dating). By measuring the C14 concentration or residual radioactivity of a sample whose age is not known, it is possible to obtain the countrate or number of decay events per gram of Carbon. By comparing this with modern levels of activity (1890 wood corrected for decay to 1950 AD) and using the measured half-life it becomes possible to calculate a date for the death of the sample.

As 14C decays it emits a weak beta particle (b ), or electron, which possesses an average energy of 160keV. The decay can be shown:


14C => 14N + b
Thus, the 14C decays back to 14N. There is a quantitative relationship between the decay of 14C and the production of a beta particle. The decay is constant but spontaneous. That is, the probability of decay for an atom of 14C in a discrete sample is constant, thereby requiring the application of statistical methods for the analysis of counting data.

It follows from this that any material which is composed of carbon may be dated.Herein lies the true advantage of the radiocarbon method, it is able to be uniformly applied throughout the world.

Radio Carbon Dating is a scientifically sound dating method.

 

[Lonyo]

7. Helium Content in Earth's Atmosphere... Physicist Melvin Cook, Nobel Prize medalist found that helium-4 enters our atmosphere from solar wind and radioactive decay of uranium. At present rates our atmosphere would accumulate current helium-4 amounts in less than 10,000 years.12

Well, since the amount of helium in the sun has slowly increased over time, it might be safe to assume the rate of helium accumulating in our atmosphere would also increase over time.
Thus using the number 10,000 is a little misleading.

 

[DRDEATH]

Prove 1 of the predictions in the bible wrong..... Just one..... I dont have all the answers either, BUD. But there are alot of ifs, and we thinks, in this world. The Bible is a book that there are NO what ifs. Almost every prediction in the bible HAS come true... The ones that haven't are yet to come... You can't. Which also goes right along with what the bible says. Try and dispute the bible historicly? I dont know about you but I trust people/Books That have Never said something and not followed threw.... The Bible, my friend has come threw Every time.

 

[DRDEATH]

Well, since the amount of helium in the sun has slowly increased over time, it might be safe to assume the rate of helium accumulating in our atmosphere would also increase over time.Thus using the number 10,000 is a little misleading.

Far enough, but it shatters the evolutionary theory, so maybe its off a few thousand years.... Big deal