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Have you ever thought about how different world history would be if...

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the US had LOST the revolutionary war?

Both world wars would more than likely have been much shorter.

And all in all I bet there would have been fewer wars in general.

How else would history be changed if we were still part of the British Empire?
 
If we lost the revolutionary war it woulda only postponed our impending independence (can I put those two words together? sounds stupid)
 
Alternative History books, like those written by Harry Turtledove, are a good place to start.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Alternative History books, like those written by Harry Turtledove, are a good place to start.
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too bad they are all speculation.

I think that the US would have become independent anyway and our history probably would have proceeded in a similar fashion, although with a much more British democracy.
 
We prolly wouldn't have had slavery so late... When the British abolished it, we would've too most likely, before withdrawing and gaining independence
 
Originally posted by: Stark
britain would still rule the world right now
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Doubt it. There is no way th British could have kept all of it's colonies held down. They were spread way too thin.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
what if the europeans had stomped hitler as soon as he got cocky.
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Chamberlain would have been run out of office for being a hardass. Most people don't realize that most people supported Chamberlain's appeasement process because they didn't want to fight another "Great War."
 
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
We prolly wouldn't have had slavery so late... When the British abolished it, we would've too most likely, before withdrawing and gaining independence
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Funny I seem to recall from my history that England had no problems with using all the cotton the south could ship to their textile mills even after the Civil War started.
 
Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: Queasy
Alternative History books, like those written by Harry Turtledove, are a good place to start.
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too bad they are all speculation.

I think that the US would have become independent anyway and our history probably would have proceeded in a similar fashion, although with a much more British democracy.
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Isn't that the whole point...speculation over what MIGHT have been?

I think it might have been Turtledove, but I recently read a short story about a time traveller who wanders into a 1920s North America where the Articles of Confederation were never ratified and the 13 colonies were still nothing more than disjointed warring factions.
 
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
We prolly wouldn't have had slavery so late... When the British abolished it, we would've too most likely, before withdrawing and gaining independence
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Funny I seem to recall from my history that England had no problems with using all the cotton the south could ship to their textile mills even after the Civil War started.
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And that's relevant how?

UK abolished slavery in their empire before the US did. If we had still been a colony, it would been here, too.

In any case, world would be a slightly different place, no doubt. Part of the reason WW1 happened was because the UK was becoming genuinely terrified of Germany's naval power, since "the empire" (UK, Canada 'bought' a couple for England, Australia and NZ each 'bought' one) could only afford to build so many dreadnoughts. UK controlled all the dreadnoughts each of the commonwealth nations built/bought, so....if the US economy had been *directly* feeding the UK building effort all through the naval race...

I don't think Germany would have risked a war with a 2:1 naval disadvantage given that they ALMOST didn't go to war anyway with naval PARITY.

WW1 would not have happened, although a confrontation would be inevitable. More than likely, during the late 20s and into the mid-30s a rather horrible world war would happen with almost-WW2 level technology in use. No nukes, though, so that's something.
 
I think we'd be having tea and crumpets today, and cricket would be just as popular as the NFL is. 😛.
 
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: IAteYourMother
We prolly wouldn't have had slavery so late... When the British abolished it, we would've too most likely, before withdrawing and gaining independence
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Funny I seem to recall from my history that England had no problems with using all the cotton the south could ship to their textile mills even after the Civil War started.
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And that's relevant how?

UK abolished slavery in their empire before the US did. If we had still been a colony, it would been here, too.

In any case, world would be a slightly different place, no doubt. Part of the reason WW1 happened was because the UK was becoming genuinely terrified of Germany's naval power, since "the empire" (UK, Canada 'bought' a couple for England, Australia and NZ each 'bought' one) could only afford to build so many dreadnoughts. UK controlled all the dreadnoughts each of the commonwealth nations built/bought, so....if the US economy had been *directly* feeding the UK building effort all through the naval race...

I don't think Germany would have risked a war with a 2:1 naval disadvantage given that they ALMOST didn't go to war anyway with naval PARITY.

WW1 would not have happened, although a confrontation would be inevitable. More than likely, during the late 20s and into the mid-30s a rather horrible world war would happen with almost-WW2 level technology in use. No nukes, though, so that's something.
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It is relevent because I doubt they would have done it counter to their economic interests. They would have found some way to hold their collective noses and deal with it until it became economically feasable to let it whither and die. Much like was done in the USA up until the war forced the issue once and for all.
 
At that time, I don't think Britain would have been able to maintain any sort of serious control for any expended period of time. They didn't have the population, resources, and time too keep things under their domain over here.

They would have been kicked out eventually one way or another.
 
Originally posted by: Queasy
Alternative History books, like those written by Harry Turtledove, are a good place to start.
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Alt-history?!? You mean fantasy novels?

edit: How can one be better than the other? LOL, it's pure speculation. Might as well watch the jetsons for what's going to happen in the future. Now, where's my flying car?
 
Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Originally posted by: Queasy
Alternative History books, like those written by Harry Turtledove, are a good place to start.
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Alt-history?!? You mean fantasy novels?

edit: How can one be better than the other? LOL, it's pure speculation. Might as well watch the jetsons for what's going to happen in the future. Now, where's my flying car?
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I know!

I'm still waiting for MINE too!
 
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