Have you ever seriously considered a dog a friend?

[Zanix]

I think that people and dogs share compatible social structures. This way we can have social contracts with the dogs, for example, I trust my dog won't tear my hand off when we fight- he trusts I'll feed him. Therefore, I think the dog can be my friend.

Brings a strange meaning to "man's best friend"...

I guess I just never thought the dog and I "shared an aggrement" not to be... in competition I guess? But instead be... supporters. Friends. meh, I thought about this one way too long.

 

[Looney]

In my family they are LITERALLY family members. My dad refers to us and the pets (dogs and cats) as siblings. He'll tell the dog "go to your brother".

 

[shimsham]

as much as two different species can be friends, sure. on the level of a human? ummm......no. hes still a dog and would eat or attack me should he get desperate enough.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Dogs are pack animals - when you adopt one, your family is the pack. Assuming you're not a pushover, you're the alpha dog.

- M4H

 

[Auryg]

Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

 

[jimbob200521]

as far back as i can remember, we have always considered dogs as part of our family

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: shimsham
as much as two different species can be friends, sure. on the level of a human? ummm......no. hes still a dog and would eat or attack me should he get desperate enough.

I'd eat my dog if I had to.

He'd taste good too.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: shimsham
as much as two different species can be friends, sure. on the level of a human? ummm......no. hes still a dog and would eat or attack me should he get desperate enough.

I'd eat my dog if I had to.

He'd taste good too.

same for me. would be sad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. just like he would in the post i made above.

in the end, we are all animals. friends or not.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

First off, i wouldn't care. I don't see my corpse as sacred, so if i'm buried, cremated, experimented on, fed to animals, i don't care.

Second, they don't. There was a local incident here a little while ago, where an elderly man died in his home... and the dog didn't eat him. When they discovered the man, they discovered the dog was in starvation and nearly dead himself.

 

[raildogg]

Animals are god's children. They're just as special as a person. Definately, they're a friend (although not in all cases)

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Dogs are pack animals - when you adopt one, your family is the pack. Assuming you're not a pushover, you're the alpha dog.

- M4H

QFT

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

First off, i wouldn't care. I don't see my corpse as sacred, so if i'm buried, cremated, experimented on, fed to animals, i don't care.

Second, they don't. There was a local incident here a little while ago, where an elderly man died in his home... and the dog didn't eat him. When they discovered the man, they discovered the dog was in starvation and nearly dead himself.

i hear you, but friends dont eat friends, right. i mean, if we are putting dogs on that level and all.....

so one dog didnt eat the dead owner. how is that representative of all dogs?

 

[Zanix]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: shimsham
as much as two different species can be friends, sure. on the level of a human? ummm......no. hes still a dog and would eat or attack me should he get desperate enough.

I'd eat my dog if I had to.

He'd taste good too.

same for me. would be sad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. just like he would in the post i made above.

in the end, we are all animals. friends or not.

I'll savor your fresh brainsies with a balsamic vinegar with crisp young spinach and applesause' for a base. :lips:

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Zanix

Originally posted by: shimsham
as much as two different species can be friends, sure. on the level of a human? ummm......no. hes still a dog and would eat or attack me should he get desperate enough.

I'd eat my dog if I had to.

He'd taste good too.

same for me. would be sad, but you gotta do what you gotta do. just like he would in the post i made above.

in the end, we are all animals. friends or not.

I'll savor your fresh brainsies with a balsamic vinegar with crisp young spinach and applesause' for a base. :lips:

make some gravy with my blood for the mashed taters.

 

[hjo3]

I wouldn't say friend, exactly, since there's an implied equality there.

 

[George P Burdell]

When it comes to loyalty, I'd put a dog ahead of many humans I know personally.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: hjo3
I wouldn't say friend, exactly, since there's an implied equality there.

that, and they cant talk, so you really arent ever sure wtf theyre thinking. sure, you can read them and predict their behavior, but no one ever really knows for certain whats going on in there.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: George P Burdell
When it comes to loyalty, I'd put a dog ahead of many humans I know personally.

let those humans depend on you for food, and your opinion may change.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

First off, i wouldn't care. I don't see my corpse as sacred, so if i'm buried, cremated, experimented on, fed to animals, i don't care.

Second, they don't. There was a local incident here a little while ago, where an elderly man died in his home... and the dog didn't eat him. When they discovered the man, they discovered the dog was in starvation and nearly dead himself.

i hear you, but friends dont eat friends, right. i mean, if we are putting dogs on that level and all.....

so one dog didnt eat the dead owner. how is that representative of all dogs?

Well how do you know dogs eat their owners when they die? How many people do you think die each year with dogs in the house, and how often have you heard this?

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

First off, i wouldn't care. I don't see my corpse as sacred, so if i'm buried, cremated, experimented on, fed to animals, i don't care.

Second, they don't. There was a local incident here a little while ago, where an elderly man died in his home... and the dog didn't eat him. When they discovered the man, they discovered the dog was in starvation and nearly dead himself.

i hear you, but friends dont eat friends, right. i mean, if we are putting dogs on that level and all.....

so one dog didnt eat the dead owner. how is that representative of all dogs?

Well how do you know dogs eat their owners when they die? How many people do you think die each year with dogs in the house, and how often have you heard this?

personally, i know of one. my boss' grandma. but the cat she had started it all, so says the dog.

fact is they are animals. they get hungry, the will eat before they die whether its you or kibbles n bits. in the context of what we are talking(dead owner).

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Auryg
Yeah. Knowing that they'd give their life for you does a whole lot, even when they do puke on the floor

waht about knowing they will eat your remains should you croak in the kitchen and they get hungry?

First off, i wouldn't care. I don't see my corpse as sacred, so if i'm buried, cremated, experimented on, fed to animals, i don't care.

Second, they don't. There was a local incident here a little while ago, where an elderly man died in his home... and the dog didn't eat him. When they discovered the man, they discovered the dog was in starvation and nearly dead himself.

i hear you, but friends dont eat friends, right. i mean, if we are putting dogs on that level and all.....

so one dog didnt eat the dead owner. how is that representative of all dogs?

Well how do you know dogs eat their owners when they die? How many people do you think die each year with dogs in the house, and how often have you heard this?

personally, i know of one. my boss' grandma. but the cat she had started it all, so says the dog.

fact is they are animals. they get hungry, the will eat before they die whether its you or kibbles n bits. in the context of what we are talking(dead owner).

How much do you know of animal behaviour? Most animals don't eat their kind. Lots of animals are found each year that are neglected together, and you'll find some died from starvation, and others close to death... and why? it's because they didn't eat the dead ones.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Looney

How much do you know of animal behaviour? Most animals don't eat their kind. Lots of animals are found each year that are neglected together, and you'll find some died from starvation, and others close to death... and why? it's because they didn't eat the dead ones.

dogs/cats do not equal people. sure, they see you as the family, but they arent dumb enought to think you are the same animal as they are.

edit for nested quotes.

 

[middlehead]

Originally posted by: Looney
In my family they are LITERALLY family members. My dad refers to us and the pets (dogs and cats) as siblings. He'll tell the dog "go to your brother".

My dad, brother, and I were the same way with my old dog. He was definitely a third son and a second brother. The current dog knows who 'Mom' is, but hasn't caught on to any other familial names.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

See #1.

Warning - Sadness ahead.

- M4H