Have we turned our children into wimps?

[pcgeek11]

I hope you then yelled "Now get off my lawn".

I most certainly did! I think I threw a rock at him too!

 

[HeXen]

Here's a basic idea of how i think our future will go. I think the next huge thing since the internet will be robots. We're not too far away now but they'll be marketed in a new way and everyone will have to have one just like the internet in the 90's.

At some point, decades down the road, no one will have to work. We'll have evolved some kind of odd hybrid of socialism and a different world economy with much done by computers and simulations where we will have time to do the kind of work that we want to do. Everyone could more easily start and operate a new business with little overhead with every household possible owning at least the kind of business that coincides or integrates with other businesses.

Regardless it's obvious each gen will get lazier and lazier with far different perspectives than we share today. If we could see into the future in another 100 years, we probably wouldn't like how people think and interact just as I don't think someone that was an adult in the year 1900 would agree with how we are today.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Here's a basic idea of how i think our future will go. I think the next huge thing since the internet will be robots. We're not too far away now but they'll be marketed in a new way and everyone will have to have one just like the internet in the 90's.

At some point, decades down the road, no one will have to work. We'll have evolved some kind of odd hybrid of socialism and a different world economy with much done by computers and simulations where we will have time to do the kind of work that we want to do. Everyone could more easily start and operate a new business with little overhead with every household possible owning at least the kind of business that coincides or integrates with other businesses.

The best possible business idea ever on Earth is to market whatever drugs allow a person to believe that.

 

[unokitty]

Recruits' Ineligibility Tests the Military

The majority of potential Army reservists are either hooked on prescription drugs, have too many tattoos, are overweight or have mental conditions that prohibit them from joining the military, recruiters say.

Seven out of 10 applicants fail to meet Army Reserve standards on “mental, moral and physical reasons,” said Capt. Eric Connor, U.S. Army Reserve Command spokesman.

Don't know how much has changed.

I remember my 1969 draft physical. If you haven't done one. Imagine a large building with no windows and yellow footprints painted on the floor. Now, imagine a few hundred young guys dressed in shoes and underpants carrying their paperwork, following those footprints around, to different stations...

Guy in line in front of me was a drummer for a relatively well known local band, the New Colony Six.

At one station, they had a number of docs set up to interview you concerning anything that might keep you out of the military. During my interview, I could hear the drummer's interaction with his Doc.

"Son, do you smoke marijuana?"
"Doc, I can't get out of bed without rolling a joint."
"What about peyote?"
"You mean purple dollars? Hey, we were down in Mexico last year and those things are great!"
"What about LSD?"
"Doc, last month, I ate enough acid to get an Elephant high."

At that point the Doc got out a large stamp, and boom, stamped the drummers paperwork.

When we got to the next station, I had to ask. "Dude, what did the Doc stamp on your paperwork?" He held it up for me it see. It said:

Airborne Qualified

Uno

 

[HeXen]

The best possible business idea ever on Earth is to market whatever drugs allow a person to believe that.

Hey maybe I'm way off but it's arrogant to think our society is always going to be as it is now. At least I try to visualize future scenerio's rather than stick to some linear mindset but it's not that far of a stretch considering the path we've been taking lately.:\

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Hey maybe I'm way off but it's arrogant to think our society is always going to be as it is now. At least I try to visualize future scenerio's rather than stick to some linear mindset but it's not that far of a stretch considering the path we've been taking lately.:\

Nobody ever said it's going to stay exactly the same, only that your Star Trek-ian utopia is the most idiotic concept ever dreamed of. If you can't take that fantasy future and pick out 100 different things that make it impossible after contemplating it for 7 seconds you need to go brain shopping.

 

[turtile]

Maybe so, Maybe no. It all depends. There are too many variables.

Lets say the kid has 40 1/4 acre lots to cut a week... Then what? Your turn.

I have a little better than a quarter acre lot. I can cut it with a walk behind mower in about 50 minutes taking my time and I'm nearly 60.

I had a kid come by last summer and ask if I wanted my grass cut, no edging no bushes trimmed just the grass. I was feeling lazy so I asked him how much and he wanted to see the yard in back. He looked around and came back and said he could do it for 50$. I said No you cannot do it for 50$, what makes you think your time is worth over 50$ and hour? He had no viable answer.

That is the prevalent mentality of today's youth.

Well, that's not going to happen. And if it did, the kid would need to have a truck to move the lawn to each property unless he/she lives in some housing development. You can't simply move to each lawn in no time and physically, you need a break pushing a lawn mower 8 hours in one day. Again, being logically, why would anyone what to work that hard when you could sit at a retail position for the same pay?

10+ years ago when I was a teen, I cut lawns for $20 (1/3 acre). That would have to be around $25-30 today to match the costs of buying things.

If that kid is getting $50 a lawn, I'd say he is smart. Much smarter than the kid that has to cut 5 lawns to get equivalent pay. He'll be able to invest in an actually company and become a viable business while the other will end up with a dead mower and have to pull more cash just to make more money...

 

[ThinClient]

At some point, decades down the road, no one will have to work.

That's exactly what people said about the automobile, the computer, and other products that make life easier.

Entire industries and infrastructure jobs arose around them, employing even more people than they displaced.

This whole "robots and technology will eventually make it so man doesn't have to work" argument is not and has never been a rational argument.

 

[waggy]

Recruits' Ineligibility Tests the Military
Don't know how much has changed.

I remember my 1969 draft physical. If you haven't done one. Imagine a large building with no windows and yellow footprints painted on the floor. Now, imagine a few hundred young guys dressed in shoes and underpants carrying their paperwork, following those footprints around, to different stations...

Guy in line in front of me was a drummer for a relatively well known local band, the New Colony Six.

At one station, they had a number of docs set up to interview you concerning anything that might keep you out of the military. During my interview, I could hear the drummer's interaction with his Doc.

"Son, do you smoke marijuana?"
"Doc, I can't get out of bed without rolling a joint."
"What about peyote?"
"You mean purple dollars? Hey, we were down in Mexico last year and those things are great!"
"What about LSD?"
"Doc, last month, I ate enough acid to get an Elephant high."

At that point the Doc got out a large stamp, and boom, stamped the drummers paperwork.

When we got to the next station, I had to ask. "Dude, what did the Doc stamp on your paperwork?" He held it up for me it see. It said:

Airborne Qualified

Uno

welll..that would explain why my dad was airborn in vietnam LOL

 

[waggy]

Now most of them are brats but thats a different thread

maybe we are just lucky or a product of where we live. All the girls that my daughter is friends with are very nice. Granted most are on her gymnastics team. they all are a little naive and innocent. granted they go to school and gymnastics.

My son has more girls as friends then boys. Though all are tomboys. but they are very nice.

 

[Murloc]

Recruits' Ineligibility Tests the Military
Don't know how much has changed.
[...]
Uno

the bar for physical ability is set based on how many soldiers they need imho.
In my country there's the draft but the government sets the number of troops, nowadays 40% are declared unable to serve, I think it's related since they haven't made the alternative of civil service more attractive (except for the elimination of the interview about the motivations).

 

[manimal]

maybe we are just lucky or a product of where we live. All the girls that my daughter is friends with are very nice. Granted most are on her gymnastics team. they all are a little naive and innocent. granted they go to school and gymnastics.

My son has more girls as friends then boys. Though all are tomboys. but they are very nice.

I am coloring with too large a brush. My triplets are six and so many of their same age friends are really whiny.

I do not abide whining


lol

 

[EliteRetard]

So 100'x100', or 34 paces by 34 paces; about an hour of work. How much should stupid work pay? $20 an hour tax free is good money unless you expect to be paid like an engineer for doing a mule's work.

A few years ago I was getting paid ~10$ hr to do hard heavy labor mixed with complex computer work. In one of the highest cost of living areas in the US. I would have loved such a gravy ass job, mowing lawns at double my pay for half the work!

But in fact I had done some lawn care work, probably back in 2010 and it paid the minimum wage of ~7$ hr. This in an area where renting a dumpster in the slums cost $600 month. Low end studio apartments are $800/month and a decent 1 bedroom is ~1100$ month or more.

If you never went anywhere or did anything, almost never took showers or used utilities, only ate expired donated food, only got hideous dirt cheap and/or used clothes and wore them until they disintegrated...then you could actually make it work without going into massive debt. I took it to the extreme and actually managed to save a bit.

And I was very good with my savings and actually managed to "retire" early. I actually make less than in my "prime", equivalent to ~7.5$ @ 40hrs week. That's if I want my savings to hold out (which I do). So I still have to live like crap...but at least I no longer have to work.

It's absolutely insane how much people can make and still bitch about being poor. My friend makes $60k a year and owes me money because he can't make ends meet. LOL he lives at his girlfriends house for free. 'Corse I did just get him to buy me a ~100$ meal, but I've been helping him out a lot lately.

I probably would go back to work if I could get decent pay. $20/hr is like crazy good. If that were actually possible doing simple crap like lawns...*drool*

And lol at people using gas mowers for tiny lawns. Reel mowers FTW. Gas is only for big or crazy overgrown shit.

 

[pcgeek11]

Well, that's not going to happen. And if it did, the kid would need to have a truck to move the lawn to each property unless he/she lives in some housing development. You can't simply move to each lawn in no time and physically, you need a break pushing a lawn mower 8 hours in one day. Again, being logically, why would anyone what to work that hard when you could sit at a retail position for the same pay?

10+ years ago when I was a teen, I cut lawns for $20 (1/3 acre). That would have to be around $25-30 today to match the costs of buying things.

If that kid is getting $50 a lawn, I'd say he is smart. Much smarter than the kid that has to cut 5 lawns to get equivalent pay. He'll be able to invest in an actually company and become a viable business while the other will end up with a dead mower and have to pull more cash just to make more money...

Nobody that has a brain is going to pay a 14 year old 50$ to cut a quarter acre of grass.

 

[HeXen]

Nobody ever said it's going to stay exactly the same, only that your Star Trek-ian utopia is the most idiotic concept ever dreamed of. If you can't take that fantasy future and pick out 100 different things that make it impossible after contemplating it for 7 seconds you need to go brain shopping.

Then why not share you vision of the future society instead of being condescending but it doesn't take a brain shopper to understand that it's arrogant to say something is impossible.

 

[Rudee]

Amazing how many parents I see gushing over their kids with stupid Facebook posts like "Hit Share if you think your Daughter is the best Daughter in the world and that you could not live with out her" nonsense. Just ridiculous.

 

[Kadarin]

We're definitely raising a generation of pussies, for several reasons:

We no longer let kids run out an play, due to an irrational fear that pedophiles and sexual predators are everywhere.

Children have cell phones, so if anything happens, they can call mommy. This means that as they grow older, they don't learn to solve problems on their own.

I also see cases where there are no serious consequences if children get themselves in trouble.

We are very quick to give kids drugs. Better parenting through chemistry, I suppose.

 

[sourceninja]

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