Have morals changed over the course of human history?

Orsorum

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Have they? We have certain examples of moral progressiveness over the past two or three centuries, but in the span of human history, have morals (defined as "conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior") changed, for better or for worse?
 

sixone

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I don't think so. People are just less worried about putting on a good face for the world, IMHO.
 

notfred

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Of course. How can you even ask this question?

See:
banning of slavery
civil rights movement
abolishment of capital punishment in many places
increasing acceptability of homosexuality
etc.
 

tfcmasta97

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Originally posted by: drinkmorejava
Originally posted by: gooseman
They haven't changed, they disappeared.

no wonder why americans keep acceptin the spoonfed crap of wishin for the goodness of yesteryear

Originally posted by: notfred
Of course. How can you even ask this question?

See:
banning of slavery
civil rights movement
abolishment of capital punishment in many places
increasing acceptability of homosexuality
etc.

QFT
 

spacejamz

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Originally posted by: notfred
Of course. How can you even ask this question?

See:
banning of slavery
civil rights movement
abolishment of capital punishment in many places
increasing acceptability of homosexuality
etc.

here's my list:

there has been a signficant increase for these:
no respect for parents
no respect for others or their property
need for instant gratification
not taking personal responsbility for their actions

i would guess that more individuals are caring about themselves and less for others, so basically society is pretty much going down the tubes...

i seriously weep for the youth of this country and shudder at the thought of them running this country some day...people who think it is funny to launch themselves off the roofs of their houses in shopping carts or paying homeless people to fight while thinking they can tell teachers to fvck off and not fear retaliation because they can sue the school district and have their parents sue mcdonalds because they are fat or because they didn't make the football team or cheerleading squad so they should sue the coaches and the school and also for making reality tv shows like super nanny and hells kitchen so popular because their lives are so pathetic that they have to watch someone's life for entertainment.

/rant



 

Legend

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Originally posted by: notfred
Of course. How can you even ask this question?

See:
banning of slavery
civil rights movement
abolishment of capital punishment in many places
increasing acceptability of homosexuality
etc.

But, but, but godlessness...

Slavery is fine, it's in the bible!

*puts on flame suit*
 

Legend

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Originally posted by: spacejamz
Originally posted by: notfred
Of course. How can you even ask this question?

See:
banning of slavery
civil rights movement
abolishment of capital punishment in many places
increasing acceptability of homosexuality
etc.

here's my list:

there has been a signficant increase for these:
no respect for parents
no respect for others or their property
need for instant gratification
not taking personal responsbility for their actions

i would guess that more individuals are caring about themselves and less for others, so basically society is pretty much going down the tubes...

i seriously weep for the youth of this country and shudder at the thought of them running this country some day...people who think it is funny to launch themselves off the roofs of their houses in shopping carts or paying homeless people to fight while thinking they can tell teachers to fvck off and not fear retaliation because they can sue the school district and have their parents sue mcdonalds because they are fat or because they didn't make the football team or cheerleading squad so they should sue the coaches and the school and also for making reality tv shows like super nanny and hells kitchen so popular because their lives are so pathetic that they have to watch someone's life for entertainment.

/rant

Some parents aren't worth respecting. Children should not be second class citizens. Crime has existed throughout history.

Instant gratification and lack of responsibility, yes. But the first isn't a moral issue.
 

AcidicFury

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Morals are entirely society driven- societal norms dictate the current morality trend. Thus, because societal norms have changed so much, morals have as well. Insert any belief that is outdated- i.e. slavery, hunting/gathering, and question why they went out of existence.
 

djheater

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Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC)



The fundamental needs and drives of cultures have not changed since Neolithic times.
 
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Originally posted by: djheater


Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC)



The fundamental needs and drives of cultures have not changed since Neolithic times.

:D

Since people on average taller than our ancestors, I would suggest that morals have risen recently to heights that they have never been before.


 

djheater

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Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
Originally posted by: djheater


Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC)



The fundamental needs and drives of cultures have not changed since Neolithic times.

:D

Since people on average taller than our ancestors, I would suggest that morals have risen recently to heights that they have never been before.

get off the stage!
/throws tomato
 

Orsorum

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Originally posted by: djheater


Children today are tyrants. They contradict their parents, gobble their food, and tyrannize their teachers.
Socrates (469 BC - 399 BC)



The fundamental needs and drives of cultures have not changed since Neolithic times.

That's along my line of thinking, but I do have to wonder about the general level of progressiveness that seems to exist.
 

ThaGrandCow

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Morals have not changed. The fundamental basics of right and wrong are still there in every person. The change has been in the social aspect of what is ACTUALLY right and wrong.

Yes, there are disrespectful people, criminals, and others that just don't care... but not anymore percentagewise than there were back in any other time.
 

McGyver

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morals haven't been changed since their conception. however, moral standard has.
 

everman

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It's more of a societal issue. We see many of the same issues of modern society as were dealt with hundreds and even two thousand+ years ago. There have always been more "liberal" and "conservative" societies, the meaning of which depends on the society.
 

Baked

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Abolishment of capital punishment in many places is the reason why there are so many pedophiles, child molesters, and rapists. Bring back capital punishment now!
 

ThaGrandCow

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: ThaGrandCow
Morals have not changed.

The fundamental basics of right and wrong are still there in every person.

Rocks are apparently big in Texas, you've been under one for way to long.

You can nitpick over specific examples of morality all you want, the only differneces you will find are between people raised to believe that one course of action is right, and others who believe a different course of action is right. Is it morally wrong to believe the way you were raised is correct?

I was born and raised in areas that make me feel a certain way about many issues. CA, MD, and VA. I ended up in TX a few years ago with a large part of the population raised differently. Which of the two groups are wrong?

Everyone still has the basics of don't kill, don't rape, don't steal, etc ingrained in their heads. How you feel on smaller issues is simply a side product of the family that raised you and your social influences as you were growing up.