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have any of you had this problem**solved**

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gac009

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Hello

On my monitor any resloution that is not 1380*1024 and it is as if the size of the desktop is too big for my monitor. when I want to see one end of my desktop I must move the mouse to the edge of the screen and it will "scroll" over to that edge. I have used this monitor with a 5500 and 6600gt so I know that it can handle the resoultions 1600*1200 and 1024*768 which are what I normally use. Before I just set it too 1380*1024 and had to live with a 75htz refresh but now that I am playing some Unreal2004 Id like to go down to 1024*768 where my monitor can go up to 200, not that I need it that high, just as long as its higher than 75.

now I am using a used 9600xt with the latest drivers from the ati website. I did a fresh install of XP before installing the card and I am familiar with driver cleaners and the process of changing drivers. After having this problem I wiped my HD and installed SP again just to be sure. Basically Im certain its not a driver conflict at least as far as the video card drivers are concerned. The monitor drivers I know nothing of. I just use what ever XP installs. Its an old monitor for a networking station made by panasonic under the name Tektronix for Exxon. I use it becuase of the 21 inch screen and Id rather not just buy another one if Im sure it has worked fine under these resoultions for other video cards.

and also just incase its important

P4 3.0E
XP SP2
ATI ATRX330-L
ATI 9600xt
2x 512 Corsair DC
80gig SATA HD Hitachi Deskstar

Im really not sure whats going on here, any help, guesses or suggestions would be appreciated
 
i have the same processor, so its not that. also, what is 1380x1024? do you mean 1280x1024? its because the aspect ratio. we nee dmroe information on the monitor.
 
hmm..not sure if i understand everything you have said correctly, but i vaguely remember a while ago on an older computer being able to do a setting which meant i could have a bigger screen size but you had to move your cursor to the edge to move the screen along, i think that was an option i ticked to do.....rather than being an error...

in fact its possible it was a long while ago, possibly even on a Voodoo3 3000....lol

but if u uninstalled and reinstalled drivers it shouldnt still be affected if its that....wish i could remember what that option was...lol

 
Originally posted by: SuperTyphoon
i have the same processor, so its not that. also, what is 1380x1024? do you mean 1280x1024? its because the aspect ratio. we nee dmroe information on the monitor.
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sorry its 1360*1024 that runs right. Ive given you all that can be found on the monitor. It was never a commercial monitor. It has however worked before with Xp and a BFG FX5500 and a MSI 6600gt so I know its not the monitor itself. Also the monitor is fine before I install any drivers for the video card. So if this is a setting are there any ideas about where I might be able to toggle them on and off?
 
Originally posted by: knyghtbyte
hmm..not sure if i understand everything you have said correctly, but i vaguely remember a while ago on an older computer being able to do a setting which meant i could have a bigger screen size but you had to move your cursor to the edge to move the screen along, i think that was an option i ticked to do.....rather than being an error...

in fact its possible it was a long while ago, possibly even on a Voodoo3 3000....lol

but if u uninstalled and reinstalled drivers it shouldnt still be affected if its that....wish i could remember what that option was...lol
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Which part are you unclear of, I really need help so if I havnt worded this right please let me know and I will do my best to re phrase it.

basically the problem is that the monitor seems too small for the what it should be showing. I have to scroll to see the whole screen except for the resoultion 1360*1024 which for some odd reason shows up fine. This wouldnt be a problem except that my monitor would do above 75 refresh at that resoultion. If anyone has every encounterd this problem before reguardless of the hardware in question Id really like to hear about it.
 
I know if I was using a dual monitor setup, and if the resoluton of one monitor was less than the other, that the one with the smaller resolution would scroll.
Not sure if that applies here.

I also think that there is the option to read the resolution info from the monitor, which may cause the problem if the resolution you set is higher than what the monitor says is i's highest? I'm going from memory on this one, which isn't the best.
 
I've seen this before. I used a laptop (screen: 1024 x 768) that output to an LCD monitor (screen: 1280 x 1024). When I switched back to the laptop's screen though, it'd only show the upper left 1024 x 768 of the original screen, though I could scroll around to see the rest. My guess is that even though the laptop screen's driver could handle the 1280 x 1024 resolution (i.e. can accept that much data), it knows it can't show that much on a 1024 x 768 screen, so it opts to let you scroll to see the rest instead. Other monitor drivers may interpolate to fit that much data (i.e. display 1600 x 1200 by interpolating even though the screen's resolution is 1280 x 1024) or nowadays, simply say "signal out of range".

By the way when I say "driver" I don't mean the stuff you load on your computer (which handles what data to give your monitor). I mean the monitor's internal components (which handles how to process the data). For example, 6-bit vs 8-bit is a monitor driver issue and not a computer one.

As for how to change it, I'm not sure. My guess is either the monitor's OSD or your computer's display settings. Look for something along the lines of "aspect" or "scaling" or something like that to see if you can fiddle around with it. Those control what to do with the computer's output.

Does the same problem exist if you're running something that's say 800 x 600, or does that become full-screen or screen with black frame around it?
 
when I first install windows both times its fine at any resoultion because the first thing I do is set it. after installing the drivers is when I start having problems. when I play games I can play only in 640*480 it seems. anything higher and the picture just gets bigger and dosnt fit. I maybe should have mentioned this but it actually slipped my mind.

I fiddled around with my settings and I found a "degauss" option that fixed the discoloration at the very bottom corner of the screen from when I set a speaker too close to it, that was something that I thought I was just going to have to live with 😛 I diddnt even know monitors could do that, shows how little I know about this.

I already have a small black frame around my picture and some slight pincusioning to make the picture seem a flat square. the size of this frame dose not change reguradless of what resoultion I am attempting to run.

I was actually hoping that someone might say that my card is the problem, since I have been able to run other cards with this monitor just fine and I plan to upgrade(again) soon. but it would be really nice if it was just a setting too 😛

well im gonna search for scalling and aspect settings, ill get back to you on that.

thanks for your help.
 
This happens with fixed-timing monitors when you select an unsupported resolution. You'll then get that panning effect, with the physical resolution still being the only one supported, and the virtual display surface being the resolution you selected.
 
Originally posted by: Peter
This happens with fixed-timing monitors when you select an unsupported resolution. You'll then get that panning effect, with the physical resolution still being the only one supported, and the virtual display surface being the resolution you selected.
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If this is the case I dont understand why I was able to use this resoultion before. ???
And also why would selecting a lower resoultion than the one that displays correctly have this affect?
 
well I would have liked to sell my 9600xt but now im not sure I can, I dont know what the problem is.
any ideas? I got a 6800gt on the way so I guess then well know.
 
basically my wallpaper was too big for my smaller resoultion. In my settings I had it set to stretch so it would stretch the image to its full size and then I would have to scroll. Now that I have set it to center everthing is fine.
Well I guess I do feel kinda dumb but whatever the problem is sloved and Im happy.
thank you all for your help.
take it easy!
🙂
 
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