Hate Crime?

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himkhan

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That's a pretty old video, over 4 years old. Do you have any updates, I'm sure it's been decided by now?

All I could find is some person's take on the issue:

This account raises questions. Why did the reporter use the term “didn’t retaliate” to describe a victim trying to avoid serious harm while being randomly attacked by a gang of young men? Why was only one man charged in the assault?

It’s difficult to avoid the conclusion that Joshua Lamb was the only assailant charged because only Joshua Lamb’s assault can be “counted” as a hate crime, also that the other physical attacks on McKnight are being deemed inconsequential precisely because there’s a so-called “hate crime” to trumpet.

That’s the problem with these laws: if you insist that “hate crime” is “worse than other crime,” as our Attorney General is so fond of saying, you’re already half-way to dismissing “non-hate” acts as inconsequential. Thanks to the existence of hate crime laws, the fact that Joshua Lamb said something stupid to a total stranger is officially of more consequence than the fact that he and a gang of his peers ambushed and punched, kicked, and choked a man, sending him to the hospital.

If Lamb had committed the same crime against a black youth, he probably would not face many consequences: the assault, severe as it was, would merely be filed away as one of the hundreds of thousands (millions?) of non-hate crime assaults that largely get dismissed by prosecutors and the juvenile courts.

If Lamb had not uttered some belligerent teenage nonsense while assaulting McKnight, the same would probably occur: a slap on the wrists in juvenile court, at the very most. The New York Post, and virtually every other paper in America, certainly would not be reporting the story. Lamb would not be facing prison time.

And, quite creepily, if McKnight were a female, and Lamb had attacked her while spouting sexist slurs, instead of spouting schoolyard anti-white taunts while attacking a white man, it wouldn’t count as hate . . . though if Lamb had called a male victim “bitch” while kicking him, it might count as anti-gay bias. Hate crime laws inevitably normalize certain types of hate speech in order to promote the “principled opposition” of other types.

So we now have a legal system that — in practice — minimizes crimes like striking and kicking a person while maximizing the consequences for select types of speech. And once you get in the practice of deeming some types of people more important; others things naturally follow, including playing down anything done to the “less important” victims, like normalizing calling a woman “bitch” as you punch her, or normalizing black-on-black crime.

Hate crime laws actually codify prejudice.

Joshua Lamb would have faced no more than a first-degree misdemeanor charge if he had jumped McKnight without expressing his opinion of rap music first. The maximum sentence for this crime in Florida is one year of incarceration or probation (likely the latter, at the very most). Now he faces a possible five years in prison because of an opinion he expressed regarding rap music while incidentally beating a total stranger.

Doesn’t this simply reinforce Lamb’s perception that what he thinks about rap music is the important thing?

he song David McKnight was listening to when he was attacked — the song Joshua Lamb felt enough prejudice over to commit a so-called “hate crime” to defend his racial right of ownership — is littered with hateful slurs and degrading references . . . directed at women, of course:

I don’t wear tight jeans like the white boys
But I do get wasted like the white boys
Now I’m looking for a bitch to suck dis almond joy
Said she gotta stop sucking ’cause her jaw’s sore
Gotta bitch on the couch, bitch on the floor . . .

and so on.

How unsurprising. Good thing hating women isn’t ever hate crime. It would simply be impossible to fit it in the headlines.

http://crimevictimsmediareport.com/?p=3495
 

BeeBoop

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ahh, I didn't know it was old. I heard it on the radio a few days ago so I googled it.
 

himkhan

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ahh, I didn't know it was old. I heard it on the radio a few days ago so I googled it.

No worries man. I tried to find some info on the case real quick on google and didn't find any outcome. I'm doubting a hate crime was charged. The link I posted brings up a good point, only the one talking was charged, the other instigators and ones that jumped in don't appear to have been charged at all. And if it was a woman (insert any color) and he said "bitches should be listening to rap" and beat her up no hate crime either. The entire 'Hate Crime' term is stupid and should be abolished. Unless maybe a group of whites/black hop in a car or go out in a group with the premeditated sole intent of beating to a pulp someone of another race. Then I think it *might* have some merit.
 
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