Haswell Refresh CPUs listed.

ShintaiDK

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As expected its just speedbins.

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http://vr-zone.com/articles/haswell-refresh-trickle-gradually-2014/66507.html
 

ShintaiDK

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So these are the non-k models. I wonder what the statement that the k models will use haswell E architecture means. Maybe refers to DDR 4 support and a new mb?

The "refresh 1150" K model will be Broadwell-K. I think thats what confused vr-zone. Broadwell-K will use DDR3.
 

inf64

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100MHz boost. Be still, my beating heart.
2.8% clock difference, I wonder if this will even be registered in most benchmarks (vs 4770K)? Margin of error is around the same value XD.
 
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The "refresh 1150" K model will be Broadwell-K. I think thats what confused vr-zone. Broadwell-K will use DDR3.

That doesn't make any sense though, supporting DDR 4 only on the non-overclockable cpus. Is it 100% sure that there will even be a broadwell k for the desktop? If it is 14 nm, it could have even worse heat dissipation issues than haswell when overclocking.
 

ShintaiDK

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That doesn't make any sense though, supporting DDR 4 only on the non-overclockable cpus. Is it 100% sure that there will even be a broadwell k for the desktop? If it is 14 nm, it could have even worse heat dissipation issues than haswell when overclocking.

Only Haswell-E will support DDR4 on the desktop. None of these refresh CPUs will use DDR4.
 

mikk

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I think vr-zone confused it. There are no K-models because the next K-models will be Broadwell based late in 2014. Haswell-E is based on a completely different platform, they probably confused it.
 

Rvenger

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It's refreshing to see Intel turbo at 4ghz at least on one SKU. They have plenty of headroom to increase the clocks.
 
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Wow, no shame at all over at Intel

in the board meeting Board member - "why don't we just tell our customers we want more of there money for basically nothing? CEO - "you're fired." CEO - "just give them a 100Mhz increase in speed. That'll sellem"
 

ShintaiDK

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Wow, no shame at all over at Intel

in the board meeting Board member - "why don't we just tell our customers we want more of there money for basically nothing? CEO - "you're fired." CEO - "just give them a 100Mhz increase in speed. That'll sellem"

Thats a classic lack of understanding of the situation.

The desktop is simply last to get technology jumps if its capacity limited. Laptops, tablets/smartphones and servers comes first, then desktop last. The only new thing is that desktops dropped down from 3rd to 4th place in the line for the new process nodes.
 

Rvenger

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How I see it is, better yields = higher clock speed under same TDP, we've seen AMD do it already with Vishera and Zambezi. I am sure Intel does not want to be stamping 95w on any sku unless it is on the 2011 socket.
 

jpiniero

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It's refreshing to see Intel turbo at 4ghz at least on one SKU. They have plenty of headroom to increase the clocks.

Not really. There's a big difference between "able to overclock to" and "would pass Intel's tests"... and that's even considering that over 4 Ghz the power draw spikes big time.
 

Spawne32

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Yeah with all of their problems they must be worried sick because of new desktop intel part that is clocking 2.8% higher...

making the total overall performance difference between current FX parts and this next generation of haswell parts, somewhere close to 40%
 

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Tbh I don't care until something happens. CPUs have been stuck since lynfield (IMO of course) and now graphics are (reportedly) stuck in 28nm until mid 2014. Where is my 15ghz PXV? Where is my 14nm gpu? And I thought this was a great time to be alive! :p
 

ShintaiDK

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Yeah, with those incompatible "9" series chipsets. Some poor soul will buy one and find out it is incompatible with his "8" series mobo.

The Haswell Refresh chips works on 8 series. The question is Broadwell-K and E3 14nm Xeons.