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Haswell or 8350

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newjersian1

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I am building a multipurpose PC. It needs to be able to play modern games like Starcraft 2 and Skyrim as well as compile code quickly and run virtual machines (sometimes more than one at a time).

Case: Fractal Design R4

HDD: 1TB Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM

SDD: Samsung 840 Pro

GPU: GTX 660 TI

RAM: 16GB 1600mhz crucial ballistic ram (2*8)

I don't know about my CPU though. With Haswell coming out in a couple of weeks, compared to the eight core AMD......


What would be the better processor for some multitasking and gaming, the i7 4770k or the FX-8350?

Also what cooling would you reccomend? i am looking to do some overclocking, nothing too extreme just to whatever runs stabily without stressing my parts.

Thanks for reading
 
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Wait for Haswell, unless you think you really need more cores, though it doesn't sound like it.

I think the Cooler Master 212+ Evo is still the go to cooler for most overclocking needs.
 
well, i guess my question is really this: How much does the extra cores help with multitasking over the power of the i7? The i7 is certainly more powerful but does it multitask as well as the AMD?
 
With a 660 ti you won't nearly be as cpu bottlenecked as with a 680/7970 ghz. I vote 8350 because of the substantially lower price (though performance will be a little lower).
 
Well i was also thinking about a 760 TI or even a 770 once they come out. Im not worried about bottlenecks while gaming (medium details are fine for me) but I will be needing to run some intensive security programs (I am working towards my CISSP).

And Enigmoid, its about $100-$150 price difference between the 4770k and the 8350.
 
You'll want the 4770k. Just compare the 3770k vs. 8350. The 3770k already scores higher on multitasking benchmarks, and a whopping 50% better on Starcraft 2.

The 4770k is only going to widen that gap.


Welcome to the forums, btw. 🙂
 
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Thanks RaistlinZ 🙂

I'm gonna get the 4770k. Any suggestions on 660 TI vs 760 TI vs 770? I don't need to play in super HD nor do i need 500 FPS. I still want seamless gaming though and wouldn't mind ultra HD settings 🙂
 
RaistlinZ said:
You'll want the 4770k. Just compare the 3770k vs. 8350. The 3770k already scores higher on multitasking benchmarks, and a whopping 50% better on Starcraft 2.

The 4770k is only going to widen that gap.


Welcome to the forums, btw. 🙂
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wow! a whole 50% better, that is great. The 4770k from the leaks seem to only gain 5-10% perf boost over the 3770k. At this point, for Intel dominated games like skyrim and sc2 why not go 3570?
 
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yeah the 770 looks perfect 🙂

And monstercameron,

monstercameron said:
wow! a whole 50% better, that is great. The 4770k from the leaks seem to only gain 5-10% perf boost over the 3770k. At this point, for Intel dominated games like skyrim and sc2 why not go 3570?
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I will be using it for some fairly intensive multitasking and the i5 series does not support hyperthreading which would greatly lessen the performance of the CPU
 
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the 8350 helped AMD's position, but it still loses to quadcore i7s

the reason to go with the 8350 (other than simply wanting to support AMD) is if you can use the multithreaded processing power over an i5 but but also don't want to spend the extra $ to upgrade to an i7

at this point you might as well wait until Haswell comes out to see how things shake out
 
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fffblackmage said:
Wait for Haswell, unless you think you really need more cores, though it doesn't sound like it.

I think the Cooler Master 212+ Evo is still the go to cooler for most overclocking needs.
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I have 3 of the original 212+, but thought I'd mention that I've seen reviews of a new Silverstone AR01 cooler and it seems to be a competitive value OC solution.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835220060

http://www.pureoverclock.com/Review-detail/silverstone-ar01-cpu-cooler/5/
 
Mars999 said:
I wouldn't get the AMD chip if you are going to compile code...

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/3

Shows to be alot slower vs. Intel
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Yes , with Anantech bench in this matter , but what says TR ?....

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http://techreport.com/review/23750/amd-fx-8350-processor-reviewed/10
 
Pretty sure, 4770k + mb combo is going to be some 40-50% more expensive than a 8350 deal. Its a question whether you can afford the better platform (1150). If you have the money, its really a no-brainer.
 
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The 4770k will definitely be a little more expensive. It'll also offer more performance, consume less power, and most likely allow for a Broadwell upgrade (motherboard maker dependent) down the road. I think the 8350 will also fit the OP's needs sufficiently, but my gut feeling says the 4770k will be a better investment in the long run.

I play a lot of SC2, and it definitely does run faster on an Intel setup. With that said, I spent a day playing on a Phenom II and couldn't even tell the difference between my 3770k. It's not really a game that's all that stressful to be honest.
 
newjersian1 said:
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What would be the better processor for some multitasking and gaming, the i7 4770k or the FX-8350?

Also what cooling would you reccomend? i am looking to do some overclocking, nothing too extreme just to whatever runs stabily without stressing my parts.

Thanks for reading
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The AMD is alot cheaper but runs hotter. And if you are unlucky you might get a chip which runs so hot and suck down alot of power at stock, the mb will be throttling.
 
Been a hardcore AMD fan since 1998, but it's time to move on. My next system will be Haswell. If you're going to run virtual machines, make sure you get an Intel CPU that supports VT-x, not all Intel CPUs support hardware virtualization where as all AMD CPUs do.
 
Magic Carpet said:
Pretty sure, 4770k + mb combo is going to be some 40-50% more expensive than a 8350 deal. Its a question whether you can afford the better platform (1150). If you have the money, its really a no-brainer.
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Not if you consider the cost of the entire system if you get a 3770. If the cost is 150.00 more even, that is only 10 to 15 percent of a 1000 to 1500 dollar system. For gaming I would definitely get a 3570k, but I am not familiar enough with the other software to make a recomendation.

I do think though you need to consider the entire system cost not just the difference in the price of the processor and mb when you calculate % price differences.
 
JimmiG said:
Been a hardcore AMD fan since 1998, but it's time to move on. My next system will be Haswell. If you're going to run virtual machines, make sure you get an Intel CPU that supports VT-x, not all Intel CPUs support hardware virtualization where as all AMD CPUs do.
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All Haswell, IB and SB CPUs support VT-X as far as I am aware. You might think on VT-D and VT-C?
 
The bottom line is that one intel core can process two threads significantly faster than one AMD module (2 cores). So obviously 4 intel cores are going to be faster than 4 AMD modules (8 cores).
 
Ventanni said:
The 4770k will definitely be a little more expensive. It'll also offer more performance, consume less power, and most likely allow for a Broadwell upgrade (motherboard maker dependent) down the road. I think the 8350 will also fit the OP's needs sufficiently, but my gut feeling says the 4770k will be a better investment in the long run.

I play a lot of SC2, and it definitely does run faster on an Intel setup. With that said, I spent a day playing on a Phenom II and couldn't even tell the difference between my 3770k. It's not really a game that's all that stressful to be honest.
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Everything I've read suggests broadwell is going to be BGA only, so I wouldn't count on a drop in upgrade. On the intel side of things, whether you choose to upgrade to Haswell or not, that's the platform you quite likely have to stick with until Skylake.

Personally I think broadwell is Intels experiment and depending on how well or poorly it does will determine the packaging for future processors.
 
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