Haswell G3220 Benchmarks & No. of EU's in GT1

[CHADBOGA]

As I am building a HTPC for a friend from a mixture of new and second hand parts, I settled on getting him a new dual core Intel CPU and was going to get him an Ivy Bridge Pentium G2030 for $69. (All prices are in Australian Dollars, which today is about 0.92 of a US Dollar)

As we had an old ATI HD4550 video card to use, I wasn't overly concerned about using the IGP in the Pentium, plus I wasn't sure if the video skipping bug was still there or indeed how much of a problem it actually is.

But then as luck would have it, two days before I was due to buy the CPU & motherboard I needed, my favourite Computer component seller(Umart) started to stock the G3220 for $77.

As I understand the IGP in Haswell has fixed the video skipping issue, I figured this would make more sense to purchase, as the IGP would probably be more powerful than the ATI HD4550, and would also serve as a back up option if the ATI HD4550 card died.(Having said all this, currently I have not managed to get the IGP working fully with this computer yet, as it may not like my Dell U3011)

So with my friend being very price conscious, I settled on a Gigabyte B85M based motherboard, for $85.

I am also using recent second hand ram(Kingston KHX16C9X3K2/8X 8G(2x4G) GDDR3 1600MHz CL9 XMP 10th Anniversary Series) and a second hand but previously unused hard disk(Seagate SATA3 1TB 7200RPM 64mb Cache).

Now some info about those EU's in GT1/HD Graphics in Haswell.

This is what GPU-Z reveals :



So there are 10 Unified Shaders in GT1/HD Graphics.

The default speed is 350Mhz and in the image above, GPU-Z shows the IGP running at 600Mhz.

When I ran Cinebench's OpenGL Benchmark, the IGP boosted its running speed to 1,100Mhz, as GPU-Z shows below:




Whilst I have this computer in my possession, I thought I would run a few common benchmarks so people could see what it produces and make whatever comparisons they want.

I don't have any games to benchmark and if anyone wants me to benchmark anything else and if the benchmark is easy enough to download, I will give it a run and report back.

Before I put up Benchmark results, I'll do the obligatory CPU-Z screenshot:





I wanted to use a number of Benchmarks that have been recent subjects of threads in this forum, in addition to a couple that were quick and easy to download and run.

Cinebench 11.5 - 64bit

Single & Multi-Core




GeekBench 3




HandBrake - Android Preset as per Anandtech Thread

Official Handbrake Download

HandBrake 0.9.9.5530 - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
Ram: 8071 MB, Screen: 1600x1200

[15:25:05] 1 job(s) to process
x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 LZCNT
x264 [info]: profile Main, level 3.0
[15:28:00] reader: done. 1 scr changes
[15:28:00] work: average encoding speed for job is 81.785156 fps
[15:28:01] sync: got 14315 frames, 14315 expected
Encode done!
HandBrake has exited.

HandBrake - Latest Nightly Build -

HandBrake svn5776 (Nightly Build) - 64bit Version
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU G3220 @ 3.00GHz
Ram: 8071 MB,
GPU Information:
Intel(R) HD Graphics - 9.18.10.3186
Screen: 1600x1200

x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast SSSE3 SSE4.2 LZCNT

[15:33:29] work: average encoding speed for job is 92.379250 fps

Encode done!
HandBrake has exited.


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All in all, I am amazed at how much single core performance you can get these days, for such a small outlay of money.

Now if I can just sort out the IGP issues. D:

 

[seitur]

Now if I can just sort out the IGP issues. D:

What exactly is a problem(s)?

 

[CHADBOGA]

What exactly is a problem(s)?

It won't run or show a higher resolution available, on my Dell U3011 monitor, than 1600 x 1200, and its native resolution is 2560 x 1600.

I had the same problem show up on the HD4000 of my i5 3570K, but as I was going to be using a discrete card anyway, I never bothered to pursue the matter.

 

[BSim500]

It won't run or show a higher resolution available, on my Dell U3011 monitor, than 1600 x 1200, and its native resolution is 2560 x 1600.

I had the same problem show up on the HD4000 of my i5 3570K, but as I was going to be using a discrete card anyway, I never bothered to pursue the matter.

Have you tried these:-
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Se...hics+4400&ProdId=3719&LineId=1100&FamilyId=39

And does your monitor come with a driver?

 

[Insert_Nickname]

It won't run or show a higher resolution available, on my Dell U3011 monitor, than 1600 x 1200, and its native resolution is 2560 x 1600.

You can forget about running dual-link DVI on (almost all) Intel-based boards. They simply do not support it. You have to use displayport for running resolutions over 1200p...

Cheapest board with displayport I have seen is the ASUS B85M-E.

 

[SPBHM]

have you tested the IGP with some 3dmark or something?

 

[CHADBOGA]

Have you tried these:-
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Se...hics+4400&ProdId=3719&LineId=1100&FamilyId=39

And does your monitor come with a driver?

When I first installed Windows 7 on this machine, it referred to my IGP as a Generic Video Card and I was stuck running it at 1024 x 768.

The Video Drivers from Intel's site don't work for me, as I keep getting error messages saying that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements.

After liaising with Intel Tech Help, they suggested I see if my motherboard maker had Graphics Drivers and thankfully they did.

When I downloaded them, it installed all the drivers, but the best resolution it would show and let me run was 1600 x 1200.

Even now when I try to re-run drivers from Intel's site, it tells me that my system doesn't meet minimum requirements.

As for my monitor, it shows up in the Intel Driver Properties correctly and when I do a search via Device Manager --> Monitor --> Properties, it reports back that I have the correct driver.

 

[CHADBOGA]

You can forget about running dual-link DVI on (almost all) Intel-based boards. They simply do not support it. You have to use displayport for running resolutions over 1200p...

Cheapest board with displayport I have seen is the ASUS B85M-E.

LOL. If this is the case, what a joke.

My friend is only planning to run this computer to his TV via HDMI, will I likely have any issues there?

 

[CHADBOGA]

have you tested the IGP with some 3dmark or something?

No. Since I am currently limited to 1600 x 1200, I couldn't really see the point in running a GPU benchmark.

 

[monstercameron]

what games are you able to play?

 

[CHADBOGA]

what games are you able to play?

I don't have any games installed.

My friend is going to us the computer to play movies & TV shows on his large plasma TV.

 

[monstercameron]

what kinda case did you use? any cool htpc micro/mini-itx cases?

 

[SPBHM]

No. Since I am currently limited to 1600 x 1200, I couldn't really see the point in running a GPU benchmark.

why not? 3dm11 performance mode is 1280x720, 3dm vantage is also 720p, 3dm06 is 1280x1024, 3dm(2013) doesn't care about your display res.

 

[tential]

Ya, I don't think this is really a gaming CPU lol.
This is a GREAT cpu though for just web browsing, TV, and movies. Perfect for HTPCs and you see it recommended on HTPC sites all the time.
TBH, I know anandtech and other sites like to review the top of the line stuff, but we need more reviews on the bottom of the line cheaper things for the HTPC crowd. Considering how cheap the parts are it shouldn't be hard to get them or get them lent for a review.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

LOL. If this is the case, what a joke.

My friend is only planning to run this computer to his TV via HDMI, will I likely have any issues there?

No, that's the "funny" part. The HDMI port is actually capable of 2160p@24fps (checked specs). The HDMI port only has a single DVI signal pair, so its only electrically capable of single link DVI.

 

[el etro]

25% stronger CPU than my sold-out G620. Nice.

Only deception i found in Haswells is their higher power consumption.

 

[CHADBOGA]

what kinda case did you use? any cool htpc micro/mini-itx cases?

Not at this stage.

His system is housed in a monster Lian Li Tower which sits at the side of his TV Cabinet.

He will be getting a new TV cabinet in a few months time and then it is anticipated that that a proper HTPC case will be purchased.

The motherboard here is a Micro-Motherboard, so it won't be an ITX case.

 

[Lonyo]

Anyone know of a comparison between G620/G1610/G3220 or similar in terms of power consumption?

 

[CHADBOGA]

why not? 3dm11 performance mode is 1280x720, 3dm vantage is also 720p, 3dm06 is 1280x1024, 3dm(2013) doesn't care about your display res.

Does anyone think that Intel's GT1 graphics would be much chop as a gaming solution?

 

[SPBHM]

Does anyone think that Intel's GT1 graphics would be much chop as a gaming solution?

that's why I asked for some GPU tests, so we can compare to the older HD Graphics (HD2500), HD3000, HD4000... I haven't seen any Haswell GT1 review so far.

 

[mikk]

You can be happy if your game runs in 720p or 768p to be honest unless the game is very very old. 10 EUs is half of what Haswell GT2 got plus lower GPU frequency. Haswell GT1 is of course quite a bit faster than IVB GT2 due to the EU increase from 6 to 10.

 

[Vesku]

If it can run something like Diablo 3 or League of Legends at 720p on lowest settings then it's probably good enough for ~80% of PC users.

 

[Enigmoid]

If it can run something like Diablo 3 or League of Legends at 720p on lowest settings then it's probably good enough for ~80% of PC users.

Should easily be able to play lol at 720p and 30 fps. Given the fact that we are comparing to similarly clocked mobile HD 4000 to haswell it might be playable at 1080p high at ~30 fps.

Possibly playable at 1080p 30 fps, definitely playable at 720p.

 

[Vesku]

From my experience playing LoL and DotA 2, I'd want 60fps. On par with competitive shooters in that regard, imo. But it seems like you'd at least get to play even if there was some "my computer sucks" frustration, wouldn't be a slideshow.

Actually, same with Diablo 3. 30fps you could play but you'd die a lot on higher difficulty (monster power) because it would dip quite a bit with the giant amounts of monsters you kill on screen, even with effects on lowest.

 

[Blue_Max]

Intel video drivers giving you grief over "minimum requirements" is usually because of;

A) needing to install all motherboard/chipset drivers FIRST
and
B) Installing .NET framework of 3.5 or 4 FIRST.