Ive been out of the loop and was wondering whether the xbox 360 has been hacked yet. Better yet, has a modchip been made or have they progressed on the dvd drive exploint
Has Xbox 360 been hacked yet?
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Queasy
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Not really no.
There is a hack out but it is only good for running "backups". Even then, you have modify the firmware on the 360 for each different "backup" you want to run. The hackers who came up with already have said that it isn't a useful hack and they aren't going to reveal how they did it.
There is nothing ready for primetime yet.
There is a hack out but it is only good for running "backups". Even then, you have modify the firmware on the 360 for each different "backup" you want to run. The hackers who came up with already have said that it isn't a useful hack and they aren't going to reveal how they did it.
There is nothing ready for primetime yet.
purbeast0
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Yes there is a firmware hack but it's not public yet. It looks like the firmware hack is going to be a game of cat and mouse.
Here is a link to the article and video of it when it first happened.
Team Executer is working on a peripheral that will allow you to hook your xbox360 dvdrom to your PC with ease and basically flash the drive with a 1 click application.
Once that is released, the game of cat and mouse will then start. MS will then have to release some kind of "Auto-update" that will not let you connect to live unless you get this update, or will make new games unplayable without this new firmware update. After that happens, a new firmware will then be worked on and released, and it's just going to go in circles.
However there will still be modchips out, and those too will be released to the public soon. Last I heard they were in the process of being mass produced. The firmware hack is a straight up piracy process though and will not allow unsigned code to be ran. It only bypasses the DVD-R check on the disc when booting up the game. Until we see a modchip that allows unsigned code, we won't see any awesome apps like the ones we saw on the old xbox.
Here is a link to the article and video of it when it first happened.
Team Executer is working on a peripheral that will allow you to hook your xbox360 dvdrom to your PC with ease and basically flash the drive with a 1 click application.
Once that is released, the game of cat and mouse will then start. MS will then have to release some kind of "Auto-update" that will not let you connect to live unless you get this update, or will make new games unplayable without this new firmware update. After that happens, a new firmware will then be worked on and released, and it's just going to go in circles.
However there will still be modchips out, and those too will be released to the public soon. Last I heard they were in the process of being mass produced. The firmware hack is a straight up piracy process though and will not allow unsigned code to be ran. It only bypasses the DVD-R check on the disc when booting up the game. Until we see a modchip that allows unsigned code, we won't see any awesome apps like the ones we saw on the old xbox.
Well that dvd-rom firmware update that bypasses the check seems to really be unfixable from ms's end of the spectrum. How would they be able to tell a game is not legit if the dvdrom says it is
Well, they could check the firmware hash when booting or whatnot, and then reflash your DVD-ROM with the correct firmware, or simply stop booting and tell you to fvck off for trying to hack your XBox.
They cracked the DVD drive but there is encryption on the mainboard that hasn't been hacked yet. The second part is supposed to be the hard part.
purbeast0
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That's what I was thinking too, but I am cool with the guy who basically ruined Halo 2 (he's the one who "hacked" it and told bungie exactly where to fix it, but they thought he was bluffing then made it public and they then in turn offered him a job when he gets out of school lol) and he's also the guy who wrote the Xplorer360 software at 360gamesaves.com, so he's pretty damn smart ... and he told me that MS can fix it via some type of dash update or some type of "forced" update that will flash the dvdrom to lets say a version 1.1, and that none of the new games will run unless the firmware is atleast 1.1 of higher.
But for every game that is already released right now, yes, you are correct, there is no way they can fix them. So every game that is out now will be able to be played on a copied disc once this firmware is released.
But as I was saying before, once the firmware is made public, MS can then make every game not run on this firmware and require a firmware update to (for instance) version 1.1 in order to make every future game run. Then once its updated to 1.1, a new hacked 1.1 firmware will be released and MS will be forced to go to 1.2, etc, etc.
That is the whole game!
What can MS "ask" the hacked dvd-rom that it will fail to answer properly?
Then how quickly can they get the hacked firmware to answer correctly?
Then what's the next question MS can ask the dvd-rom...
Think about this.... why can't they just make the hacked firmware say its already v1.1?
cat and mouse people!!
purbeast0
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notice my "for instance" thing. that is just an example. the people releaseing this firmware won't know what they have to work with until MS releases the latest legit version. Once thats cracked, they will then release a new latest version.
So i don't know if you were questiong me or agreeing with me lol
well yes...but only to a point where the xbox360 doesn't detect what media is inside it. however only backups will be able to run and then only if the region is correct. you could i suppose make an image and share it, but this wouldn't work as well. also, the hack hasn't been released and probablly won't.
So I assume that all the firmware upgrades will be on every single game then? Because if you don't have live (even silver), or say your web is down the day you buy your new game, you are out of luck, unless the new game installs the update before playing?
Thanks for all the cool info purbeast, it was a good read!
Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
So I assume that all the firmware upgrades will be on every single game then? Because if you don't have live (even silver), or say your web is down the day you buy your new game, you are out of luck, unless the new game installs the update before playing?
Thanks for all the cool info purbeast, it was a good read!
That's exactly how Sony is doing it with the PSP.
I'd like to see them open it up so someone can write XB360MC. Imagine what all that horsepower could do ... plug in a USB2 tuner, upscale to HDTV res ...
- M4H
There have been many many threads on here regarding hacking the original Xbox, why would they start locking them now?
purbeast0
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Originally posted by: UpgradeFailure
So I assume that all the firmware upgrades will be on every single game then? Because if you don't have live (even silver), or say your web is down the day you buy your new game, you are out of luck, unless the new game installs the update before playing?
Thanks for all the cool info purbeast, it was a good read!
Yah NP. Everyone is assuming all of these future plans from MS but no one knows for sure just because it hasn't actually happened yet, but as M4H said, people are assuming it will be an autoupdate via xbox live, or an autoupdate that installs when these new games come out which require the new firmware.
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