Has the civilized world fallen into chaos?

iGas

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Every religion in the world fighting and killing each others in the past, except for the supposedly loving Buddhism region, but now it seems as if even Buddhists are joining the carnage.

Warning link is NSFW!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/22/burmese-police-buddhists-attack-muslims

In this video filmed in March 2013, police look on as Buddhists destroy a Muslim gold shop in Burma. A Muslim boy is attacked by Buddhists in a field in Arakan. Police looked on as the boy was killed with a sword. This footage comes to light as the EU is expected to lift sanctions on Burma, recognising reforms in the country

The footage, apparently shot by police officers, shows Buddhist crowds looting and ransacking a Muslim jewellery shop, cheering when Muslims are attacked, and setting fire to mosques and houses. Later, a man who has been set alight and is believed to be Muslim can be seen lying in the road, surrounded by a crowd of people. "Pour water on him," a man in the crowd commands. "Let him die," shouts another. "No water for him."
Both Buddhist monks and police can be seen through much of the footage – the monks often taking part in the violence, the police watching immobile as it progresses.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22356306

Why are Buddhist monks attacking Muslims?


Of all the moral precepts instilled in Buddhist monks the promise not to kill comes first, and the principle of non-violence is arguably more central to Buddhism than any other major religion. So why have monks been using hate speech against Muslims and joining mobs that have left dozens dead?
This is happening in two countries separated by well over 1,000 miles of Indian Ocean - Burma and Sri Lanka. It is puzzling because neither country is facing an Islamist militant threat. Muslims in both places are a generally peaceable and small minority.
In Sri Lanka, the issue of halal slaughter has been a flashpoint. Led by monks, members of the Bodu Bala Sena - the Buddhist Brigade - hold rallies, call for direct action and the boycotting of Muslim businesses, and rail against the size of Muslim families.
While no Muslims have been killed in Sri Lanka, the Burmese situation is far more serious. Here the antagonism is spearheaded by the 969 group, led by a monk, Ashin Wirathu, who was jailed in 2003 for inciting religious hatred. Released in 2012, he has referred to himself bizarrely as "the Burmese Bin Laden"...
 
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The civilized world has been killing each other for thousands of years. We just hear about it faster now.
 

berzerker60

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Yeah, I don't know, if there's violence in the world, we may be in trouble. That's a new low.
 

Steeplerot

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Posers..those monks can't shoot fireballs of body energy.

Not even any epic fighting styles.

Capitalism has once again failed to produce the needed amount of ninjas to keep the robed monk menace in check.

Damn you Obama...damn you to hell.
 

rpsgc

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I just can't understand why anyone would hate Muslims so much.

Sarcasm, right?

Very graphic
http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com...i-buddhists-for-not-bending-to-islam-graphic/
http://www.barenakedislam.com/2011/...head-a-9-year-old-boy-warning-graphic-images/

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/...urn-and-destroy-all-buddhists-you-will-n.html
http://jihadonbuddhists.org/


This is just a small taste of the shit Muslims do in Asia. Anyone who defends these animals is no better than them.


Religion of peace my ass.
 
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StrangerGuy

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Nonsense. Whatever Muslims do is justified as long as you can point out just one other equivalent act done by other religions. Everyone knows this.

And remember kids, all cultures are the same. Even those that think killing rape victims is a form of justice, especially when the same culture feels it also has the moral ground to propose human rights.
 

Rosieria

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Not sure about Islam ruling the world - but the world will certainly go sharply down hill within the next 40 years. Sure these things have always happened, but the means of doing them and the sheer number of nutcases is just going to lead to chaos. A medieval nutjob with a sword is quite bad, but thousands of modern nutjobs with home made bombs is quite disconcerting.
 

StrangerGuy

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Not sure about Islam ruling the world - but the world will certainly go sharply down hill within the next 40 years. Sure these things have always happened, but the means of doing them and the sheer number of nutcases is just going to lead to chaos. A medieval nutjob with a sword is quite bad, but thousands of modern nutjobs with home made bombs is quite disconcerting.

Wait till places like India and Nigeria collapses under the sheer weight of overpopulation and ask us to feed them as if the rest of the world told them to breed like pigs.

Can't wait to see bleeding hearts crying to their deaths then.
 

Yamada

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FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD FUD

Sounds like masturbation after awhile.
 

glenn1

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Every religion in the world fighting and killing each others in the past, except for the supposedly loving Buddhism region, but now it seems as if even Buddhists are joining the carnage.

Civilized world? You're being very generous counting Burma in with that group, unless your threshhold is anything Bronze Age or beyond.
 
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Nonsense. Whatever Muslims do is justified as long as you can point out just one other equivalent act done by other religions. Everyone knows this.

And remember kids, all cultures are the same. Even those that think killing rape victims is a form of justice, especially when the same culture feels it also has the moral ground to propose human rights.
Unfortunately your point will be completely lost on many here.
 

iGas

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It is a 200 years problem and was exacerbated by the Brits when they broke up Pattani in 1909 (an independence country and society) and divided the area up between Thailand and Malaysia.

Under Malaysian rule the Pattani people have much more freedom and less political corruption than under the Thai rule. Thai has been known to cheats on electorate ballots in the region, and police brutality as well as economic disparity in the area lead the Pattani people to seek independence.

That said, the 3 southern province of Thailand never has been a stable area since Thailand had control of it, because Thais and Pattanis are not the same people and do not speak the same language. Racial inequality greatly present, and regular police brutality and killing is the norm., hence it lead the area to be a point of interest and terrors for Muslim extremists from Indonesia and Malaysia to conjugate.

Religion of peace has not thing to do with violent. The problem is that there are foreign extremist/terrorists who come to Pattani to sabotage the daily lively hood of both Buddhist and Muslim Thais. And, the Thai government seems to largely ignore the pleads of the Pattanis, and having not speaking in Thai language may have something to do with it, as well as that they are among the poorest if not the poorest South East Asian.

Please educate yourself before you spouts hates, because people like you are hell bent on destroying innocent people lives.

I have visited Thailand twice and have visited Pattani area, as well as many other Thais regions. I have had good experience with local Thais people (Buddhists and Muslims). One of my good friend who is a white person that live and teach in Puket for over 20 years. He have a Buddhist Thai wife and 2 kids, and he educated me on the conflict, as well as I have read many papers and study on this subject in Thailand.

<-- Born Roman Catholic, but became agnostic.

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While we are on this subject, let it be known that the Thais aren't known to be peaceful loving people as what many people seems to think.

In the 80s many Thais weren't allow to enter Thai Hotels, Supper Markets, or Restaurants because inequality/bigotry/racism is an acceptable practice in Thai culture. Hence, that practice still is present strongly today in the modern era.

Thais also are not free from greed (perhaps because they are poor people), hence they are known to be the largest group of pirates in the mid 70s to the late 90s that robs/rapes/kills from the escaping Vietnamese immigrants (there are perhaps in the 20+ thousands of cases that was reported to the Red Cross and UN).

During the Pol Pot era, the Thais government has been known to turn hundreds of thousands of Cambodian immigrant back into the war torn Cambodian country, and the result was that the majority if not all of them was killed by the Khmer Rouge.

Thailand is a Buddhist society, but suddenly they tried to claimed that the 11th century Hindu temple Preah Vihear belong to them which is well within the Cambodian territory that oil was discovered near by. They invaded Cambodia as well as attacked Cambodia many times since the discovery of oil in the surrounding area of Preah Vihear in the mid 90s.

Thais also has been known to indefinitely keeping hundred of thousands people in refugees camps (some have lived in the camps for more than 50 years) even those most Burmese descendent are born in Thailand. They are not provided with refugee or citizen status so that they can legally seek employment. IMHO, it is Thai officials way of milking international organizations for money, because theses organizations must pay the officials so that they are allow to help the Burmese refugees/poor, and some if not most of the donations also are skimmed off the top before it get to the hands of the people that needed it.
 
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Lanyap

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I'm sure that if we were all atheists we would all get along great and there would be no fighting and killing.
 

woolfe9998

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I'm sure that if we were all atheists we would all get along great and there would be no fighting and killing.

While I'm sure that is not true, there would at least be one less reason for the killing, and an important reason at that.
 

MrColin

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It just goes to show that any religion can become a weapon when leaders substitute the love of power for the love of imaginary sky fairies.
 

Nebor

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I'm sure that if we were all atheists we would all get along great and there would be no fighting and killing.

There would be significantly less, as you wouldn't be able to dupe the dumbest of people into supporting something because the man in the sky says it shall be so.