Has overclocking gone mainstream

[VirtualLarry]

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[krnmastersgt]

I wouldn't say mainstream just yet but it's definitely getting there, most prominent in the gaming communities since nvidia and ati both give the software for OCing their video cards now. But more and more of these guides are coming up, and at the same time Intel might be happy since voided warranty + busted cpu = another purchase, maybe we'll see OCing covered in the warranty in the future?

 

[Phunk0ne]

krnmastersgt, it's an Utopia most of us dream of
But your answer might not be far off from the truth there, look at memory module manufacturers, who warrant their products @ a certain overclock speed. But companies such as Intel or AMD, will not warrant overclocking.

If overclocking would be mainstream, we should've seen a massive wave of defective motherboards, graphics cards and CPUs when not so very smart brats think they can jolt their hardware @ max while thinking their stock cooling will be sufficient

History has shown that for 'real' overclocking, lots of reading, patience and tinkering is the key to reach the optimum overclock.

For example, I have a friend of mine, who though that overclocking his Phenom 9850 would be a whiz. After I bought my Q9550 and slightly overclocked it to 3.4, he (an absolute newbie in OC'in) thought that OCin his Phenom would be as easy as Intel's C2Ds. He was farther from the truth than he had hoped for. In the end he gave up after I adviced him that he should do some serious reading of the pros and cons of overclocking, not to mention he failed miserably in overclocking his Phenom.

The only mainstream OC'ing I can remember was when Intel introduced the 'TURBO' button on the 386-486(?) period, which leaves me at . . . will we see this back with Nehalem? (or so I heard some very vague rumors).

 

[OCGuy]

I think it is wreckless to teach people how to up FSB without teaching them voltages or how to clear CMOS when they screw it up.

 

[tim924]

It's pretty pointless to compare a $320 Q9550 with a $160 phenom 9850,of course the double-priced product will win in the realistic world,it's more helpful if you provide comparison within the same price range at least to come up with a relatively accurate result.

 

[waffleironhead]

If you ask my hardware class instructor, overclocking is the stupidest thing you can do as it shortens the life of components. So I raise my hand and ask him if the components were more likely to become obsolete before they wore out under normal usage, why not overclock. He didnt have and answer.

 

[supastar1568]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead
If you ask my hardware class instructor, overclocking is the stupidest thing you can do as it shortens the life of components. So I raise my hand and ask him if the components were more likely to become obsolete before they wore out under normal usage, why not overclock. He didnt have and answer.

Also, if your within the specified voltage it is OK.

Yes, lets say it will shorten the lifepsan by 100 times. Well the life span is about infiniti, so whats 100 times less infiniti.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Topic Title: Has overclocking gone mainstream

Holy crap, yes, yes it has.

Now what do we enthousiasts do to feel cool? Overclock the spindle speed on our harddrive?

Velociraptor @ 12k rpm FTW?!

 

[aigomorla]

Dell = 48923473298478293479823423
Custom PC = 3

Need i say more?

No...

Until All the OEM companies die horribly due to financial reasons, overclocking != mainsteam.

Also we forgetting the enterprise sector which doesnt even know of the word overclocking? Enterprise probably outnumbers consumer 10 to 1

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: aigomorla
Dell = 48923473298478293479823423
Custom PC = 3

Need i say more?

No...

Until All the OEM companies die horribly due to financial reasons, overclocking != mainsteam.

Also we forgetting the enterprise sector which doesnt even know of the word overclocking? Enterprise probably outnumbers consumer 10 to 1

True but enterprise != mainstream either.

Mainstream to me is that upper third of the bell-curve of PC users who are intelligent enough to overclock but would have otherwise invested their time in other hobbies...but they stumbled across an MSN article discussing how easy it would be so they give it a try.

Not us 5% people who have no other hobbies, nor the lower 2/3rds of the distribution who wouldn't waste their time even if they knew they could do such things. (hey did I just describe the voting situation in this country? I think I just did...)

 

[aigomorla]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
(hey did I just describe the voting situation in this country? I think I just did...)

even down to the trash talking.

like how Intel fanboys talk trash on AMD and vice versa!

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: aigomorla

Originally posted by: Idontcare
(hey did I just describe the voting situation in this country? I think I just did...)

even down to the trash talking.

like how Intel fanboys talk trash on AMD and vice versa!

Touché Agio, touché.

 

[WelshBloke]

Originally posted by: Idontcare

Originally posted by: VirtualLarry
Topic Title: Has overclocking gone mainstream

Holy crap, yes, yes it has.

Now what do we enthousiasts do to feel cool? Overclock the spindle speed on our harddrive?

Velociraptor @ 12k rpm FTW?!

I overclock my smartphone

 

[Insomniator]

No way its gone mainstream. Throughout high school and college (just graduated) I knew maybe..... 4 people that built there own PC and even then they didn't keep it remotely up to date for gaming.

Is there some secret nerd group of kids that I just didn't see all these years? Never met anyone that actually goes on forums like this, not even close. I don't know where you all came from.

For custom built PC's, I'm sure most people overclock, but I wouldn't consider that mainstream because custom built machines are few and far between compared to Dell's and Laptops. Most of the kids I know think I must be some kind of computer genius for building my own.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: Idontcare
Now what do we enthousiasts do to feel cool? Overclock the spindle speed on our harddrive?

We just congregate in forums reminiscing about the good ol' days... back when overclocking meant soldering in a new crystal or setting some cryptic jumpers..

 

[Foxery]

Unless times have changed radically, OEM machines (from Dell, HP, Compaq, etc) include no overclocking options in the BIOS. And why would they?

It can't really be "mainstream" if most of the population doesn't even have access to it.

IDC: I've done my part for the corporate markets. Just custom-built 4 new C2Duos for my office, all clocked up to 3.3 GHz.

 

[Phunk0ne]

Originally posted by: tim924
It's pretty pointless to compare a $320 Q9550 with a $160 phenom 9850,of course the double-priced product will win in the realistic world,it's more helpful if you provide comparison within the same price range at least to come up with a relatively accurate result.

it's pretty pointless to point out the difference in price of both processors, don't you think?
The whole idea of overclocking is to get your CPU at such a frequency where you do not have to spend the extra $$$ for an extreme/black edition.

for example, why buy the QX9650 when you can do with with the Q9650 and get some astonishing results as well?

not to mention that intel users have successfully attained 4GHz with an E7300



I left the AMD ship after doing some research which (at that time) dualcore would give me the best results in terms of overclocking, the price was on second place. Suprisingly, the C2D's, especially the E6x50's overclocked pretty well.

Had mine running @ 3.8Ghz for quite a while until I went Quads.


I still sticked to Intel with my Q9550. Not to mention I already invested in intel hardware (intel motherboard chipset), I did not feel the need to step to AMD quads.
Don't take me wrong, he AMD's are by no means bad, but when I am looking for the best possible overclock and performance, the decision was quite easy since I already owned an Intel chipset based motherboard.

I'm glad overclocking isn't just pushing a button to get the highest possible frequency out of my chip. Enough space to twiddle around with it a bit more =)

 

[Majic 7]

I haven't seen a lot of them but I have seen HPs and others that come from the factory overclocked. MSI notebooks with a turbocharge overclocking feature. Overclocking is available to the "masses" if people look for it. Might not be something they did themselves but it is there to be used.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I think it is wreckless to teach people how to up FSB without teaching them voltages or how to clear CMOS when they screw it up.

If you take everyone's word on the internet as gospel and get yourself into trouble, you don't need to be messing with your PC anyway.

 

[fire400]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: Idontcare
Now what do we enthousiasts do to feel cool? Overclock the spindle speed on our harddrive?

We just congregate in forums reminiscing about the good ol' days... back when overclocking meant soldering in a new crystal or setting some cryptic jumpers..

"Overclock the spindle speed on our harddrive?"

When people posted highend rigs only a few years ago, members here were more likely to be 'awed' than now, as stock speeds become just as acceptable as what some may have thought was incredibly fast at the time of an overclock.

When the Geforce 7800 was about to be released, and word got out... people cried at how it was nVidia's real chance to finally put ATI out of business.

Now, as far as feeling cool, nothing wrong with that. Hard earned money, trying new gadgets, playing a game with OC settings, etc.; why should anyone feel ashamed?

You're only limited to what you want to find out for yourself. Otherwise, wait 'till someone proves you right or wrong... lol

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[faxon]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
I think it is wreckless to teach people how to up FSB without teaching them voltages or how to clear CMOS when they screw it up.

amen to that. that has got to be the most god awful piece of shit to be given the name "overclocking guide" i have ever seen. if the guy who wrote it burns up his chip trying to OC the way he is talking about im going to laugh like hell