Has Obama done more for rich whites on Wall Street or poor inner-city blacks?

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Has Obama done more for Wall Street or poor inner-city black people?

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piasabird

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One of the few things that government does for the Poor and communities is the PELL Federal Tuition Grants which target primarily poor families. However, if you live above the poverty line of abour $30,000 for a family, you will not get hardly any PELL money. It mainly targets the poorest of the poor. The hardest hit people seem to be the lower middle class that live just a little over the poverty line.

I dont think politicians can really help poor people. What government does is to make poor people slaves. Maybe you need to wise up and just grow up.
 
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Craig234

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I dont think politicians can really help poor people. What government does is to make poor people slaves.

That's your ignorance. The government can enormously help poor people, which helps both them and society. It can be done poorly or done well.
 

SparkyJJO

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So is the OP saying there are no rich black people on Wall Street, or poor inner city white people?
 

DucatiMonster696

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That's your ignorance. The government can enormously help poor people, which helps both them and society. It can be done poorly or done well.

Poverty is the symptom but not the root cause for why some people are poor. All government can do is throw money at the problem which it has for the past 50+ years.
 

Engineer

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One of the few things that government does for the Poor and communities is the PELL Federal Tuition Grants which target primarily poor families. However, if you live above the poverty line of abour $30,000 for a family, you will not get hardly any PELL money. It mainly targets the poorest of the poor. The hardest hit people seem to be the lower middle class that live just a little over the poverty line.

I dont think politicians can really help poor people. What government does is to make poor people slaves. Maybe you need to wise up and just grow up.

Obama administration targeting $100 billion in cuts in the Pell Grant program over 10 years.

Click me.
 

DCal430

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One of my biggest regrets is voting for Obama, not that McLame would have been any better. But Obama is turning out to be far more conservative than I would have liked. What happen to universal healthcare, what happen to marriage equality, what happen to livable wage law, what happen to progress. Next time I will vote third party.
 

techs

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Is it Anarchists threads or the that some people actually agree with them, that is the signal for the end of Western Civilization?
 

hal2kilo

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In spite of all the angst over which party is in control. Except for a few notable presidencies (Lincoln, Teddy and Franklin Roosevelt) all we really have, and apparently all the american people can handle, is a minor shift from center left or center right of the status quo.
 
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Anarchist420

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One of my biggest regrets is voting for Obama, not that McLame would have been any better. But Obama is turning out to be far more conservative than I would have liked. What happen to universal healthcare, what happen to marriage equality, what happen to livable wage law, what happen to progress. Next time I will vote third party.
You should've voted for Cynthia McKinney.
 

Zebo

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I'd say the former, and it really pisses me off how he ran as the black populist candidate ("by the way, I'm black", even though he's whiter than most white people), gets 96% of the black vote, then stabs them in the back by keeping minimum wage laws, helping his rich white pals on wall street by refusing to get rid of the fed, refusing to deflate the currency, continuing the racist drug war, continuing the racist federal death penalty and racist anti-Arab justice policies, having racist, sexist corporatists like Larry Summers as top advisors, etc, etc.

During the campaign, the media tried to portary him as Jesse Jackson-lite when he's really just a rich corporatist white piece of trash. And most of the New Left fell for it. Otherwise, he wouldn't have won.

One of my favorite commentators tells it like it is
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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How is the death penalty or the drug war racist? Because black people are statistically more likely to murder and use drugs?
 

hal2kilo

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How is the death penalty or the drug war racist? Because black people are statistically more likely to murder and use drugs?

Ever seen the difference (which has been rectified) between sentencing for crack cocaine vice non free base powder cocaine. Guess which group predominantly used one or the other.
 
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ultimatebob

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Just be patient:

One he finishes taking all the fishin' poles from whitey, he'll be handing them out to the inner city black people and they'll have food for a lifetime.

Nah... they would just sell them back to the whitey for a bucket of KFC.

Yep... I went there.
 

werepossum

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There is a huge difference between the blacks here in America and the Africans. I see the Africans working hard and studying hard in the library all the time. The blacks just want to chill.
True. That's why Jessie Jackson wanted to exclude foreign-born blacks from minority set-asides. That's also largely the same correlation one can make with immigrants and native-born people of all races, except perhaps Asians; people immigrating from poor countries without a lot of economic freedom and opportunity tend to drive their children to succeed and value education more than leisure time.

One of the few things that government does for the Poor and communities is the PELL Federal Tuition Grants which target primarily poor families. However, if you live above the poverty line of about $30,000 for a family, you will not get hardly any PELL money. It mainly targets the poorest of the poor. The hardest hit people seem to be the lower middle class that live just a little over the poverty line.

I dont think politicians can really help poor people. What government does is to make poor people slaves. Maybe you need to wise up and just grow up.
That was my experience with PELL grants, my family had too many assets to qualify for anything. My father owned a quarter interest in an auto parts store, and even though he was making payments to his brother and to the original financier the government counted the value of the whole business unless it was divided into stock. Additionally, some people I knew obviously lied, because their parents would provide new color televisions, stereos, furniture, and nice cars even though they were receiving PELL grants and subsidized lunches. Still, I support the PELL grant program.

And I appreciate even more being raised by a family not willing to lie for financial gain.
 

alkemyst

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Feb 13, 2001
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I remember when Obama won and the minorities in my area were "SURE" he'd be sending them each a big check to equalize them.

I don't know where the rumor started, but it was insane.
 

piasabird

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Why should any elected official give preferential treatment to poor urban Black children/people? Isnt that Racist?
 
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That's your ignorance. The government can enormously help poor people, which helps both them and society. It can be done poorly or done well.

It only helps poor people by keeping them poor. It feeds them, and houses them, but it doesn't motivate them to not use the Government.
Government assistance should be a limited time thing for people that had a job and contributed but fell on hard times. Use it for 6 months to a year and get off of it. Government assistance is a lifestyle now. People are on it for decades. That's not helping.
 

alkemyst

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He did...his ratings with the race have fallen a lot since the obama money never happened.

Anyone know the source of that rumor?
 

hal2kilo

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Feb 24, 2009
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Wall Street people are not necessarily white. And Obama has been an inspiration to poor blacks, proving that one can succeed in America with African features. But obviously he's done more for Wall Street - as would any president.

I couldn't think of a more whiter group except bankers, but bravo for your thoughts.