Has Bush lowered the bar so much the next President just has to do.....

techs

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From Iraq to Katrina to the economic collapse to the deficits. Have Americans expectations of their President been lowered by Bushes constant failures? Will the next President just have to be barely competent and only do one thing that is perceived as successful to be lauded as a Great President?
 

T2T III

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Where did you get this Left-wing drivel from? Are you starting threads just to keep your post count high?

Do you have specific links to the rubbish you just posted?
 

mugs

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Bush was bad, but it's not like people have forgotten the good presidents.
 

Thump553

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I'd say it's the opposite-GWB has scewed up so many things the next President's going to have to be a magician and very lucky as well, just to get the country back to a normal state.

He will have to:

-resolve Iraq

-get Afganistan (and Pakistan) back on the right track

-get our monsterous deficits under control

-fix the economy (including the mortgage mess)

-rebuild the armed services, including the lost/damaged equipment


And that's not even touching on either candidate's pet projects, like clean energy, energy independence, health insurance, medicare, social security, etc.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: techs
From Iraq to Katrina to the economic collapse to the deficits. Have Americans expectations of their President been lowered by Bushes constant failures? Will the next President just have to be barely competent and only do one thing that is perceived as successful to be lauded as a Great President?

Only in your mind, where reality dare not tread.
 

Jaskalas

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All the next President has to do is not invade another country. Case closed.
 

bamacre

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Looking at the two candidates from which people must choose, I actually think techs is right. And during Obama's presidency, we'll be reminded, constantly, of the horrors of the Bush administration.
 

MrChad

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It's been posted here before, but it's worth posting again.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151731

There are number of things Bush has done well since his disastrous decisions early on. Hopefully the next president can evaluate the current policies objectively before deciding whether or not to change direction completely.
 
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Originally posted by: mugs
Bush was bad, but it's not like people have forgotten the good presidents.

Like who? Nixon? Carter? GHB? LBJ? Clinton?

Roosevelt who refused to acknowledge the Nazi threat until the US was attacked and declared war upon and HAD to get involved?

Who?

Lincoln? It's been a while.

GWB is arguably the worst thing that has ever happened to the armed forces of all allied nations and has spent more money per day than his predecessor spent per month, he is clearly fucked up. Bush isn't just bad, he's the worst president the US has ever had along with being a traitor and a wannnabe warlord.
 

Red Dawn

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Bush was so bad it's almost impossible for a white man to be elected President these days, even with a running mate so stupid that it makes them look smarter than they really are i.e. John McCain
 

Ldir

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Originally posted by: T2T III
Where did you get this Left-wing drivel from? Are you starting threads just to keep your post count high?

Do you have specific links to the rubbish you just posted?

There is nothing left wing about calling Bush a disaster. Even your own party admits his presidency has been a huge failure. You need new talking points.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: T2T III
Where did you get this Left-wing drivel from? Are you starting threads just to keep your post count high?

Do you have specific links to the rubbish you just posted?

There is nothing left wing about calling Bush a disaster. Even your own party admits his presidency has been a huge failure. You need new talking points.

Geez, its hard to find a Republican who doesn't think Bush is NOT a disaster.

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: mugs
Bush was bad, but it's not like people have forgotten the good presidents.

Like who? Nixon? Carter? GHB? LBJ? Clinton?

Roosevelt who refused to acknowledge the Nazi threat until the US was attacked and declared war upon and HAD to get involved?

Who?

Lincoln? It's been a while.

GWB is arguably the worst thing that has ever happened to the armed forces of all allied nations and has spent more money per day than his predecessor spent per month, he is clearly fucked up. Bush isn't just bad, he's the worst president the US has ever had along with being a traitor and a wannnabe warlord.

GHWB was a perfectly fine president, he just got screwed by his predecessor's unsustainable tax policies. Clinton was a good president too. Sure everyone makes some mistakes, but on the whole they turned out just fine.

Your depiction of Roosevelt ignoring the Nazi threat is simply wrong. He had long been pushing for a US confrontation with Germany before Pearl Harbor. One of the reasons why Germany declared war on the US at that time is that they already considered themselves in a state of de facto war in the Atlantic due to the sheer amount of supplies/munitions/etc that the US was shipping to the Allies along with the increasingly hostile actions of US warships in protecting those convoys. Roosevelt was just smart enough to know that the country didn't want to be involved in the war, so it would take careful domestic maneuvering to build that support.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: MrChad
It's been posted here before, but it's worth posting again.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151731

There are number of things Bush has done well since his disastrous decisions early on. Hopefully the next president can evaluate the current policies objectively before deciding whether or not to change direction completely.

Quite possibly one of the worst articles I've read.
 

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If people can remember pre-Dubya, then no, but they might have been so scarred by Dubya and can't remember back to Clinton (good pres), and Bush (good pres). Reagan wasn't a good pres because people love him like they love the parent who runs up all their credit cards buying you cool crap then ducks out on the marriage before the bills come due.
 

L00PY

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Originally posted by: MrChad
It's been posted here before, but it's worth posting again.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/151731

There are number of things Bush has done well since his disastrous decisions early on. Hopefully the next president can evaluate the current policies objectively before deciding whether or not to change direction completely.
Call me crazy, but I hardly think that's glowing praise of what Bush has done well. I fully admit that I just skimmed the article but it clearly seemed to give examples of some bonehead mistakes Bush has made, and then what he did to correct his mistakes. His cabinet. North Korea. World Bank appointee. China. Had he just done the second thing first, or avoided the blunder to begin with, you might be able to make an argument he's "done well".

It's like saying Joe the Lumberjack did the right thing by rushing to the hospital after failing to successfully reattach his hand by himself with the first aid kit in the bed of his pickup after dismembering himself trying to trim his fingernails with his chainsaw while drunk out of his mind.

I wouldn't be surprised if 20 years from now historians would able to go back and point out some good things Bush did during his administration, but that article hardly does a decent job of it now.