Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ldir
It sounds like he knows something we don't. Maybe he knows there is a bigger mess to clean up than anyone will admit before the election.
Come on now, you cant blame Bush BEFORE something happens. Wait, you just did.
AT P&N for the last 8 years:
Headline: "Bush fucks X up"
Bush apologist: "Well, Clinton left him this mess, he's just trying to clean it up"
People with IQ over 40: "It's ok little boy, it's ok."
Fixed.
Let me guess. You are the child left behind. It is ok to admit it. We will not laugh at you. More than we already do. You brought up Bush. Not me. Nice to see you are continuing to preemptively play apologist for him.
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Do you or do you not support the defensive actions that we took between the years of 2001-2003?
There was absolutely, positively ZERO defensive reasons for invading Iraq. Iraq was of no threat to us whatsoever.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I support most of what we chose to do between 2001-2003 and you do not. None of us can predict what might have happened if we chose to do nothing during that time and I would rather not speculate on it with you.
Oh please, entertain us all, speculate!
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
Regardless of Biden's comments, I can already smell the odor of the pro-war left.
At least they have a track record of actually winning wars.![]()
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
Regardless of Biden's comments, I can already smell the odor of the pro-war left.
At least they have a track record of actually winning wars.![]()
We haven't won a war since WW2.
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Xavier434
Do you or do you not support the defensive actions that we took between the years of 2001-2003?
There was absolutely, positively ZERO defensive reasons for invading Iraq. Iraq was of no threat to us whatsoever.
We are just going to have to agree to disagree. I support most of what we chose to do between 2001-2003 and you do not. None of us can predict what might have happened if we chose to do nothing during that time and I would rather not speculate on it with you.
Oh please, entertain us all, speculate!
How about you entertain me instead by answer the previous question:
"Where is the line truly drawn for you before you would agree that overseas defensive military action is necessary for the greater good of this country and our allies?"
I am not talking about Iraq or any other country specifically with that question. What I want to know is what would be the minimum criteria for bamacre to decide to use our military anywhere overseas in effort to defend the United States and/or its allies?
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
Regardless of Biden's comments, I can already smell the odor of the pro-war left.
At least they have a track record of actually winning wars.![]()
We haven't won a war since WW2.
Hmmm.....so helping to stop genocide in the Balkans and getting Saddam out of Kuwait dont count?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
Regardless of Biden's comments, I can already smell the odor of the pro-war left.
At least they have a track record of actually winning wars.![]()
We haven't won a war since WW2.
Let's remember that about 60 million people died in WW2.
Do we really want to see WW3?
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Xavier434
How about you entertain me instead by answer the previous question:
"Where is the line truly drawn for you before you would agree that overseas defensive military action is necessary for the greater good of this country and our allies?"
I am not talking about Iraq or any other country specifically with that question. What I want to know is what would be the minimum criteria for bamacre to decide to use our military anywhere overseas in effort to defend the United States and/or its allies?
You know, I am not going to waste my time arguing with a fucking peon who thinks invading Iraq was a good idea.
Thinking it was before we invaded is bad enough, thinking it now after everything we know, is just flat out fucking retarded.
Originally posted by: Lemon law
But for the blunder of the century, we must look to Reagan, who armed the mujaheddin of Afghanistan, allowing them to expel the Russians. And then simply walked away, and allowed Afghanistan to fall into a civil war. Had the US come in with aid and help, 911 and the Taliban never would have happened.
you commented on Bidens wordsOriginally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: OrByte
More BS.
:laugh:
You're so full of shit. Are you gonna comment at all at any time about biden's comments? Ever? If not, hold your tongue, I told you I do not want to discuss anything but that with you. Now go away. Gee, you're like a lost dog someone fed, that won't go away. :laugh:
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: Skitzer
This is the paragraph that scares me!!
"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
Especially the last sentence ...... what the hell is he a prophet?
Not going to be apparent that we're right....WTF is that supposed to mean? Does this mean that action may be take militarily that will seem to the world as an unjustified action? Thats what I get.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ldir
It sounds like he knows something we don't. Maybe he knows there is a bigger mess to clean up than anyone will admit before the election.
Come on now, you cant blame Bush BEFORE something happens. Wait, you just did.
AT P&N for the last 8 years:
Headline: "Bush fucks X up"
Bush apologist: "Well, Clinton left him this mess, he's just trying to clean it up"
People with IQ over 40: "It's ok little boy, it's ok."
Fixed.
Let me guess. You are the child left behind. It is ok to admit it. We will not laugh at you. More than we already do. You brought up Bush. Not me. Nice to see you are continuing to preemptively play apologist for him.
You just brought up an educational reform act? With the most horrible use of grammar and punctuation I have seen in a while? Oh the ironing.
You. Dont have. To use. Periods. Between each. Thought.
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ldir
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: Ldir
It sounds like he knows something we don't. Maybe he knows there is a bigger mess to clean up than anyone will admit before the election.
Come on now, you cant blame Bush BEFORE something happens. Wait, you just did.
AT P&N for the last 8 years:
Headline: "Bush fucks X up"
Bush apologist: "Well, Clinton left him this mess, he's just trying to clean it up"
People with IQ over 40: "It's ok little boy, it's ok."
Fixed.
Let me guess. You are the child left behind. It is ok to admit it. We will not laugh at you. More than we already do. You brought up Bush. Not me. Nice to see you are continuing to preemptively play apologist for him.
You just brought up an educational reform act? With the most horrible use of grammar and punctuation I have seen in a while? Oh the ironing.
You. Dont have. To use. Periods. Between each. Thought.
But you do need them at the end of sentences, and "can't" needs an apostrophe. I was just trying to keep it short and simple for a retarded Bush apologist who imagined I was blaming his hero, even though I did not bring him up at all. You will now probably want to change the subject again.
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This thread has been up for > 10 min and the Obamabots havent been able to justify this yet?
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
So by laughing at the morons that will blame every negative thing that happens to Obama on Bush, I am a Bush apologist? You are out there.
Originally posted by: Skitzer
This is the paragraph that scares me!!
"I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."
Especially the last sentence ...... what the hell is he a prophet?
Originally posted by: OrByte
I commented on yours
its called 'discourse' or 'discussion' I thought that was the point of these threads?
And I've said what I wanted to say about Bidens comments.
And I've called you out on your fallacious reasoning.
Its not my fault you don't like what I have to say...
now its my turn to :laugh:
Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
This thread has been up for > 10 min and the Obamabots havent been able to justify this yet?
Why are people "obamabots" if they are supporting obama? I don't agree with him on everything but just because I support him I must be some kind of programmed person with no mind.
What if I said look how fast the fascist racists jumped into this thread to support it?
noooo I wasn't apologizing for Biden or his words...again if you read my posts you'd understand that. I originally agreed with Xavier's post on Biden's words...I also stated that Biden doesn't need your help in making himself look foolish, he can do that all on his own.Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: OrByte
I commented on yours
its called 'discourse' or 'discussion' I thought that was the point of these threads?
And I've said what I wanted to say about Bidens comments.
And I've called you out on your fallacious reasoning.
Its not my fault you don't like what I have to say...
now its my turn to :laugh:
Thats just it kid, you never wanted to discuss bidens words at all. Deflect! Deflect! Obama and Biden are my saviors! I will talk abotu Bush if you bring them up!!! :laugh: Fucking aplogists are all the same no matter which side of the isle their on :laugh:
Originally posted by: OrByte
Deflect!
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: OrByte
Deflect!
Deflect the topic. Deflect from Obamessiah and his underlord Biden, because bush did it! Its ok that we do it cause bush did it. We can do it because bush did it. Bush did it first! We are justified cause bush did it.
Apologists are all the same :laugh:
Originally posted by: OrByte
Next time I just won't bother with you.
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Originally posted by: OrByte
Next time I just won't bother with you.
Good cause I'm not too kind with apologists.
