OrByte
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It is an assumption to be sure. I am only basing this point on the numerous times that Obama himself has said he was against the Iraq war from the start because the war in Afghanistan was more important. He has stated numerous times that we dropped the ball when we went into Iraq.Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: OrByte
Im not sure what your point is. It would help if you actually stated something.Originally posted by: winnar111
Originally posted by: OrByte
After seeing what Bush did with preemptive war I can see where you would think that
Rest assured that Obama had the intelligence and reasoning to oppose a preemptive war in the past. And he won't make those kinds of mistakes in the future.
Might want to loosen that tinfoil cap of yours in the meantime. Obama has been running against the very reasoning and intelligence that brought us elective wars to begin with.
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002, discussing Saddam Hussein: ?He?s a long term threat and a short term threat to our national security? ?We have no choice but to eliminate the threat. This is a guy who is an extreme danger to the world.?
Biden on Meet the Press in 2002: ?Saddam must be dislodged from his weapons or dislodged from power.?
Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005: ?We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out ? equally a mistake.?
But if you are trying to say how Biden thinks Saddam is a bad guy then I agree with you. Alot of people thought Saddam was a bad guy.
The only quote worth discussing imho is the 2005 quote where Biden is making an "either or" scenario which is fallacious (false dilemma) in and of itself.
Why would you make the assumption that Obama would avoid a pre-emptive war when his running mate and his go to guy on foreign policy was clearly in favor of it?
I guess in my head that means that Obama is smart enough not to engage in a war that is unnecessary. Now, you can say that Biden favored war, and that is fine and dandy. But Biden isn't running for President Obama is. Biden would have to convince Obama. And that is exactly the type of leadership I want running this country. I want Obama to hear all sides of an issue, and I want him to rely on his judgement and intelligence to form a plan of action.
