Question Has anyone tried a low powered Intel N100 processor yet? Successor to Jasper Lake

[evident]

just ordered an N100 box to do some lightweight things. Was going to order a jasper lake N5095 but saw that these came out, wondering what anyone's experiences are with them? I Want to be able to use these as appliances, such as PFsense, IoT and even potentially blueiris which is a security cam NVR solution. Seems like these are the Alder Lake efficiency cores which makes them around the speed of a skylake processor.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

just ordered an N100 box to do some lightweight things. Was going to order a jasper lake N5095 but saw that these came out, wondering what anyone's experiences are with them? I Want to be able to use these as appliances, such as PFsense, IoT and even potentially blueiris which is a security cam NVR solution. Seems like these are the Alder Lake efficiency cores which makes them around the speed of a skylake processor.

They'll handle that with ease. Performance is around OG Skylake, so plenty enough for appliance-type applications. You're correct these are "just" Alder Lake without performance cores, and a basic IGP attached.

Just remember to put enough RAM in the box.

 

[aigomorla]

Just remember to put enough RAM in the box.

i think most of those options are pretty much non serviceable on that unit.
Meaning the ram is soldered along with the SOC.

The N5095 is pretty lousy IMO. Most setups, are fanless, those that aren't are loud, and the unit gets very HOT under load.

Blue Iris... - ABSOLUTELY NO WAY.
There is also about 0 faith i have putting USB drives as a recording medium on a security software.

PFSense - YES.. as long as it has dual intel ethernets which most N5096 have. The Chip even has AESi

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Other IoT... Depends.. but there are many better things for the niche...

 

[Insert_Nickname]

i think most of those options are pretty much non serviceable on that unit.
Meaning the ram is soldered along with the SOC.

Asrock has just launched ITX and DTX boards based on the N100. So not necessarily soldered down. They take standard DDR4 DIMMs.

Performance wise, the N100 should equal a Skylake 6400/6500. So it's not slow. At 6W too.

 

[A///]

i may be wrong but I think I saw some n100 based rpi alternatives a week or two ago after I saw @aigomorla complaining about not finding rpis for family. those all in one kits should carry a premium but they're decently kitted out.

 

[moinmoin]

This one was posted 19 days ago:

ok, that was fast.

 

[aigomorla]

still would not trust a USB drive for Video Recording.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

still would not trust a USB drive for Video Recording.

I think it depends on the drive*. They can't be worse then microSD cards*2. I would still prefer a HDD or real SSD, but sometimes it isn't practical.

For long term use, there might be thermal issues though.

* You can get 256GB for almost nothing today, so at least capacity will not be a problem.
*2 Haven't had any issues with my dashcam in years of use. But it's not like that is running continuedly 24/7.

 

[A///]

those would be nice for non computer uses.

 

[VirtualLarry]

https://www.newegg.com/p/1TS-006G-00059?Item=9SIBFJJJ4S5399

Just ordered a CHUwI (ships from China).

 

[igor_kavinski]

Just ordered a CHUwI (ships from China).

Looking forward to your review!

 

[Geven]

I haven't tried it myself but it seems like a solid pick if it's anywhere close to the Skylake speed. It's still pretty fresh on the market so not a lot of user experiences floating around yet. But hey, you'll be one of the pioneers! Can't wait to hear how it goes with your PFsense, IoT, and security cam tasks. Drop an update here when you can, it'd help a bunch of folks thinking about the same setup. Cheers and good luck with the new tech toy!

 

[evident]

Asrock has just launched ITX and DTX boards based on the N100. So not necessarily soldered down. They take standard DDR4 DIMMs.

Performance wise, the N100 should equal a Skylake 6400/6500. So it's not slow. At 6W too.

These damn Asrock boards are always vaporware and impossible to get. I remember when the 5040 came out, those boards were nowhere to be found.

 

[Abwx]

Performance wise, the N100 should equal a Skylake 6400/6500. So it's not slow.

Not exactly, the 15/10W N95 score 700/2500 in CB R23 ST/MT, it s below a 6400 at 897/3200 pts, so at 6W the MT score should be around 1800-1900 pts.

 

[hemedans]

Not exactly, the 15/10W N95 score 700/2500 in CB R23 ST/MT, it s below a 6400 at 897/3200 pts, so at 6W the MT score should be around 1800-1900 pts.

Depend with devive but N100 can surpass 3000 pts in CB R23, like other Alderlake Cpu it has PL1 and PL2 power configuragions.

 

[Abwx]

Depend with devive but N100 can surpass 3000 pts in CB R23, like other Alderlake Cpu it has PL1 and PL2 power configuragions.

N95 is 15/10W and score 2500 in MT, to get above this score require more power than this.

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Processor N100 vs Intel Processor N95 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons

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The review is here, TDP is 10W :

NiPoGi GK3 Plus N95 reviewed: A compact mini PC with an Intel N95 for office use

We review the NiPoGi GK3 Plus N95 mini PC with an Intel Pentium N95, 16 GB RAM and a 512 GB SSD.

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[Insert_Nickname]

These damn Asrock boards are always vaporware and impossible to get. I remember when the 5040 came out, those boards were nowhere to be found.

It's region specific as far as I know. 3-4 days delivery here, so I guess it's something they only take home on specific order:

https://www.proshop.dk/Bundkort/ASR...040-Bundkort-socket-DDR4-RAM-Mini-ITX/2890588

Not exactly, the 15/10W N95 score 700/2500 in CB R23 ST/MT, it s below a 6400 at 897/3200 pts, so at 6W the MT score should be around 1800-1900 pts.

So it's slower. I suspect the single DDR4 channel is hurting a bit. Still good info.

 

[hemedans]

N95 is 15/10W and score 2500 in MT, to get above this score require more power than this.

Processor Comparison - Head 2 Head

Intel Processor N100 vs Intel Processor N95 - Benchmarks, Tests and Comparisons

www.notebookcheck.net

The review is here, TDP is 10W :

NiPoGi GK3 Plus N95 reviewed: A compact mini PC with an Intel N95 for office use

We review the NiPoGi GK3 Plus N95 mini PC with an Intel Pentium N95, 16 GB RAM and a 512 GB SSD.

www.notebookcheck.net

Man there are reviews of N100 with much better score, the one we have here in Anandtech is around 2900 check here

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[Abwx]

So it's slower. I suspect the single DDR4 channel is hurting a bit. Still good info.

In CB RAM speed is not a concern, with throughput that low the MT score will be similar even if RAM speed is halved.

 

[Abwx]

Man there are reviews of N100 with much better score, the one we have here in Anandtech is around 2900 check here

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That s at 15W, the Morefine goes up to 26W in CB, so the CPu take at least 15W to get to that main power level.

Only thing weird is the single core score, NBC measure 700 while Morefine does apparently 948 but Cinebench is running while this score is displayed, strange isnt it, score is at the next pic and is 694, that is about the same as NBC.

Edit : The 2900MT score is also displayed during the CB run along with the apparent 948 ST score, that s not this PC s perfs in MT, score is along with the 694 ST score, at 2000pts.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Only thing weird is the single core score, NBC measure 700 while Morefine does apparently 948 but Cinebench is running while this score is displayed, strange isnt it, score is at the next pic and is 694, that is about the same as NBC.

What's weird about that? The Morefine goes up to 26W so maybe it's boosting higher.

 

[Geven]

Hmm, I think the discrepancy in the single-core score between NBC and Morefine does seem a bit odd. The fact that Cinebench is running during the score display could be a factor. Maybe there's a discrepancy in how the measurements are taken?
The 2900MT score is indeed intriguing. It's not clear if this is the PC's actual multi-threading performance, especially as it's displayed alongside the 694 ST score. Could be a similar situation to the single core score.

 

[hemedans]

That s at 15W, the Morefine goes up to 26W in CB, so the CPu take at least 15W to get to that main power level.

Only thing weird is the single core score, NBC measure 700 while Morefine does apparently 948 but Cinebench is running while this score is displayed, strange isnt it, score is at the next pic and is 694, that is about the same as NBC.

Edit : The 2900MT score is also displayed during the CB run along with the apparent 948 ST score, that s not this PC s perfs in MT, score is along with the 694 ST score, at 2000pts.

Like other Alderlake cpu N100 perfomance can scale with power, with PL2 power profile it can match skylake i5.

 

[aigomorla]

Once you receive it please let us know what your thoughts on it.
Im still thinking it will be a waking nightmare with Blue Iris and a USB Drive on USB 3.0.

As for a PFsense box, it will perform magnificently and probably have more power then my Ubiquiti UDM PRO SE even.

 

[Abwx]

Like other Alderlake cpu N100 perfomance can scale with power, with PL2 power profile it can match skylake i5.

The i5 6400 is a 65W CPU, no way that perf/watt has been increased by a 4 factor from 14nm to 10nm, at best it is 2x and eventualy 2.4x if perf is 1.2x lower than the i5, and assuming that the i5 use about 40W (39W in NBC test), said otherwise a 10W N100 can not match a 6400@40W.