It made me go ???? How could he travel back and forth through time.. and what was he doing to that tree in the middle of space? and where's his spacesuit, how does he survive?
Has anyone seen the movie the fountain?
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We don't know whether either the past or future stories really happen, or are just the story his wife asked him to finish.
Theory 1: both the past and future were just in her story
Theory 2: all 3 are real, reincarnation or ancestor / descendamt.
Theory 3: the past was her story, but the future is real, either through reincarnation, a descendant, OR by the present-day scientist curing death and living for thousands of years.
The tree-ship has a bubble of air around it, generated by the tree-ship or by his mind powers.
Theory 1: both the past and future were just in her story
Theory 2: all 3 are real, reincarnation or ancestor / descendamt.
Theory 3: the past was her story, but the future is real, either through reincarnation, a descendant, OR by the present-day scientist curing death and living for thousands of years.
The tree-ship has a bubble of air around it, generated by the tree-ship or by his mind powers.
Here's my theory on it: Izzy was fascinated with Xibalba - the Nebula that the Mayans thought was the underworld, the place where all dead souls went to be brought back to life. That death itself was a part of creation. She writes a story about Spanish Queen Isabelle who sends Conquistador Tomas (the man she loves) on a journey to find the Tree of Life so that they can attain immortality. However, the Tomas doesn't make it back.
In the present day, Tommy is researching the 21st century equivalent of immortality - a cure for cancer , driven much more because of his wife than the pursuit of science. But he isn't able to save his wife in time. Like the Mayan guide (and his story about his father) Izzy once talks about, he plants a seed over her grave. That way, Izzy's spirit becomes one with the tree and she remains alive in it. At least metaphorically speaking.
Now the future thread, I have no idea whether that is Tommy finishing the story for her or is actually in the future. I think it's the story and a visual representation of his inner turmoil and the emptiness he feels in his life after Izzy is gone. He was intrigued by the whole Mayan philosophy of things so he looked after that tree for hundreds of years (long, arduous research?), hopped in his space bubble and started traveling towards Xibalba. The tree (his wife) starts to die on the journey there and it starts to really get to Tommy. However, in the end, when they finally make it, the dying tree blooms once again. This might be a metaphor for Tommy's ground-breaking cancer-research?
Ahh, now I am all confused all over again. I thought I had this movie all figured out but putting it down in words always confuses the crap out of me.
In the present day, Tommy is researching the 21st century equivalent of immortality - a cure for cancer , driven much more because of his wife than the pursuit of science. But he isn't able to save his wife in time. Like the Mayan guide (and his story about his father) Izzy once talks about, he plants a seed over her grave. That way, Izzy's spirit becomes one with the tree and she remains alive in it. At least metaphorically speaking.
Now the future thread, I have no idea whether that is Tommy finishing the story for her or is actually in the future. I think it's the story and a visual representation of his inner turmoil and the emptiness he feels in his life after Izzy is gone. He was intrigued by the whole Mayan philosophy of things so he looked after that tree for hundreds of years (long, arduous research?), hopped in his space bubble and started traveling towards Xibalba. The tree (his wife) starts to die on the journey there and it starts to really get to Tommy. However, in the end, when they finally make it, the dying tree blooms once again. This might be a metaphor for Tommy's ground-breaking cancer-research?
Ahh, now I am all confused all over again. I thought I had this movie all figured out but putting it down in words always confuses the crap out of me.
I thought the wiki article about it was a pretty good read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain_%28film%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fountain_%28film%29
The present and future are real.
The past is Izzy's story; Izzy wrote all the way up until the Mayan leader swings the flaming sword at the conquistador. After finding eternal life through his cancer research, Tom travels to Xibalba in his spaceship and finally finishes the story by having the conquistador get eternal life...by turning into the earth. He became selfish and paid the price with his life.
Remember the trip to the museum? Izzy also told Tom about a friend that died and had a seed planted over them as a symbolic gesture. The tree grew into and through the body fusing them and giving the body eternal life; not really, but symbolically. The tree would grow fruit and the birds would eat the fruit giving the dead person on to other life. The tree in the spaceship is the seed that Izzy picked and gave to Tom to bury over her buried body after her death.
Don't get confused by the film jumping around. That's just for dramatic effect.
The past is Izzy's story; Izzy wrote all the way up until the Mayan leader swings the flaming sword at the conquistador. After finding eternal life through his cancer research, Tom travels to Xibalba in his spaceship and finally finishes the story by having the conquistador get eternal life...by turning into the earth. He became selfish and paid the price with his life.
Remember the trip to the museum? Izzy also told Tom about a friend that died and had a seed planted over them as a symbolic gesture. The tree grew into and through the body fusing them and giving the body eternal life; not really, but symbolically. The tree would grow fruit and the birds would eat the fruit giving the dead person on to other life. The tree in the spaceship is the seed that Izzy picked and gave to Tom to bury over her buried body after her death.
Don't get confused by the film jumping around. That's just for dramatic effect.
yeah i saw it and it did seriously confuse me. not such a good movie cause it was way to confusing. theprodigalrebel summerized it pretty well.
HendrixFan
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One of my favorite movies of all time. Watch it again and again, you will pick up little pieces at a time, and the work becomes complete.
Platypus
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- Apr 26, 2001
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Fantastic film, his last two films (RFAD, Fountain) make me cry every time I see them; not because they're sad but because they're beautiful. Emotional overload.
I think they did the movie a terrible disservice by having the time stamps in the trailer. I think that prevents people from really understanding what the future world is supposed to represent, not so much a time but a place or state of mind.
I think they did the movie a terrible disservice by having the time stamps in the trailer. I think that prevents people from really understanding what the future world is supposed to represent, not so much a time but a place or state of mind.
I thought the movie was great. The first viewing was confusing, but after reading people's comments and watching it again, it makes a lot more sense now.
The visuals and music were also very good, and fit the movie perfectly.
The visuals and music were also very good, and fit the movie perfectly.
destrekor
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see, while Requiem for a Dream I found depressing (but beautiful), I find The Fountain uplifting and sad. It's not depressing in my mind. It's sad, because this man cares so much for his wife, but she is no longer physically there for him to care for... but it's uplifting because the whole movie is about that passionate love and his quest to let her spirit live on forever. His quest is not about eternal health for himself, but for the spirit of his wife (after her passing). It's a tribute to the power of love and the lengths some will go for it. In that respect, its uplifting to see the good side of human nature. It's only sad because he loses her (physically), although he is able to keep in good spirits through the quest to maintain her spirit's health.
It's a touching and mesmerizing tale.
grohl
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whew, just finished it. I'm on emotional overload. I think I really liked it but I feel like it all needs to sink in for a night.
I didn't think the story was terribly confusing. Maybe I try not to read into stuff a whole lot. Technically speaking I thought it was really nice, the visuals were amazing - plus the whole outer space scenery being based on "real" sets and not all CG, plus music and audio were spot on.
I didn't think the story was terribly confusing. Maybe I try not to read into stuff a whole lot. Technically speaking I thought it was really nice, the visuals were amazing - plus the whole outer space scenery being based on "real" sets and not all CG, plus music and audio were spot on.
Aharami
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wow. that's deep. didnt occur to me like that. I just watched this movie with my gf. I LOVED it! such a fantastic piece of work!
edit: sorry to resurrect this thread from the ashes, but thought it's better to comment on an existing thread than to create a new one
novasatori
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it was indeed good
had never even heard of it till it arrived from netflix
it was really interesting to see the huge sets they originally built for the film, that were later trashed and auctioned in the special features.
there was also the part about how they used chemical reactions in petri dishes for the nebula, which was also very interesting
had never even heard of it till it arrived from netflix
it was really interesting to see the huge sets they originally built for the film, that were later trashed and auctioned in the special features.
there was also the part about how they used chemical reactions in petri dishes for the nebula, which was also very interesting
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