Has anyone here tried no-poo?

schneiderguy

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Will it really make my hair look better, and not just turn it into a greasy mess?

I'm skeptical of trying things the Internet tells me after I got an erection in the men's locker room while trying out no-fap.
 

Dirigible

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Will it really make my hair look better, and not just turn it into a greasy mess?

I'm skeptical of trying things the Internet tells me after I got an erection in the men's locker room while trying out no-fap.

Are you a dirty hippie? Or do you use shampoo like a real American?
 

HamburgerBoy

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I've weened myself off of shampoo slightly. I used to do it twice a day when I had a longer young-Bieber-style cut, but when I started cutting it shorter and putting it to the sides, it was too dry to keep in place. Now I shampoo every three or four days depending on circumstances, and it doesn't get noticeably greasy until the last day. Last I checked you had a long flowing ponytail, however, so I doubt it will work for you.
 

HamburgerBoy

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If there were ever 2 users made for each other it is the two above posters.

He doesn't date manlets. :'(

This thread is not what I thought it was going to be about...

I almost went my entire week at Bible Camp in 2nd grade without touching the outhouses, helped by skipping meals. The last day, hours before leaving, I was playing badminton with a sibling when midway through a stroke a felt an incredible splitting pain within my abdomen and literally keeled over. When I gathered my strength I ran straight for the pot, and didn't even bother to set down any toilet paper on the seat. It was still worth it, however.
 

schneiderguy

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I almost went my entire week at Bible Camp in 2nd grade without touching the outhouses, helped by skipping meals. The last day, hours before leaving, I was playing badminton with a sibling when midway through a stroke a felt an incredible splitting pain within my abdomen and literally keeled over. When I gathered my strength I ran straight for the pot, and didn't even bother to set down any toilet paper on the seat. It was still worth it, however.

I did the same thing in 4th grade (not at a bible camp but at an outdoor camp we went to with my school). I didn't skip meals though, and only lasted for 4 days before I pooped myself :|
 
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Attic

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I have greasy hair. After one day of no poo I look like a guy who's been homeless for 6 months.
 

IronWing

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I've weened myself off of fapping slightly. I used to do it twice a day when I had a longer young-Bieber-style cut, but when I started cutting it shorter and putting it to the sides, it was too dry to keep in place. Now I fap every three or four days depending on circumstances, and it doesn't get noticeably greasy until the last day. Last I checked you had a long flowing ponytail, however, so I doubt it will work for you.
:eek:D::eek:
 

CZroe

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I get best results when I skip a day. It always looks better the second day but any longer and it's obvious that it hasn't been washed in a while.
 

hans030390

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I've actually experimented with no-poo. The first time was actually over many months where all I would use to wash my hair was water. The second time was a brief experience with Hair One (supposedly similar to Wen, another no-poo product. I can give you some advice to make it work.

First, if the water you use is hard, has lots of minerals, chlorine, etc., you are less likely to see good results from no-poo. I specifically had to stop my water only wash regimen after moving to an apartment with very hard water. It would cause a lot of mineral buildup in my hair. If you have soft water, that's good. If you have soft water WITH a filtered shower head, that's even better.

Second, the more hair you have, the harder it is to go no-poo. No-poo requires a lot more effort than regular shampoo/conditioner.

Now, here is how you go about doing a water only wash, which I actually highly recommend if you have good water and the time to do it:

1. Before you shower, run your hands through your hair as much as you can. Shake your head. Scratch your scalp. The idea is that you want to try to knock out as much dirt, dead skin, and loose hair as you possibly can.

2. Use a boar bristle brush and brush out your hair a lot. You might have to be pretty rough, especially on the scalp. Just don't hurt yourself! Haha. Again, the idea is to get out as much dirt, dead skin, and loose hair as you possibly can.

3. Once you are in the shower, you will go through 3 "stages" of using water to wash your hair. First, wash cold, then hot, then cold again. Each time will use the same process. Each "stage" should take at least a minute, if not two. What you want to do is use your fingertips (not your nails) to really dig in/massage your entire scalp to clean it. Also, run your fingers through your hair to use the water to clean the hair strands as well. Since you aren't using shampoo, you really need to spend a lot of time working your scalp and hair to clean it. Again, same process, just done 3 times (cold, hot, then cold again).

4. Once you are done showering, thoroughly dry your hair with a towel.

5. Use the boar bristle brush on your hair again like before you showered.

Note: Clean your boar bristle brush every time after you use it (yes, even before and after showering) to remove the junk it collects. You don't want that going right back into your hair.

It can take anywhere from two to six weeks before your scalp and hair normalize to your new washing conditions, but following these steps should make the transition as easy as it can be. Personally, my hair adjusted in less than two weeks and only felt a bit greasy and grimy (it actually wasn't) for a few days. For the few months I did the water only hair washing regime, my hair had never looked and felt better. It was always very soft, smooth, and shiny without ever being greasy. My hair was noticeably less greasy over time even without showering. Anyone that smelled it said it had a very natural, pleasant smell to it, though I'm not a particularly active or sweaty person.

Like I said, if you have the right water, time, and motivation to follow this, it's probably the best thing you can do for your hair. I wish I still could. It was worth the effort.

Now, I also tried Hair One. The directions are pretty straightforward. It takes a LOT of product, and it's not cheap (Wen is even more expensive). It also takes time and effort, though arguably less than the water only washing. There are several types of Hair One cleaners/conditioners. I only tried the argan oil one, and it was OK. For me, it made decently shiny looking, but it wasn't as smooth as some shampoos I've used (certainly not as smooth as water only washing). It made my hair feel light and clean, but also drier and more brittle than the shampoo and conditioner I was using previously. It felt like it was getting progressively worse the more I used it, so I stopped. That, and it wasn't worth the time and money for how my hair turned out.

Anyway, those are my experiences with no-poo. I'm sure I'll try other products and techniques down the road.
 

Kadarin

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^^^ Screw that. I'll just do like I always do and wash my hair every day in the shower. It looks fine.
 

exdeath

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Too much hassle. I shave my head every month or so once there is enough for a comb to grab.

Zero maintenance ftw.
 

Jeraden

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I haven't used actual shampoo in over 6 months. I use either the Dr. Bronner's liquid or bar soaps. It did feel a bit weird at first, like super dry after I got out of the shower, and then kind of greasy later. But your hair adjusts, and now it's fine and I don't really even think about it anymore. You can use a vinegar rinse to help get all the soap out and it will leave your hair feeling more like it was just conditioned. I did that at first, but now only do it occasionally. My wife is doing the same thing also, though she still does the rinse every day. No complaints from me, I like it and plan to continue doing it indefinitely.
 

Codewiz

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I have greasy hair. After one day of no poo I look like a guy who's been homeless for 6 months.

You have greasy hair because you are constantly stripping all the oil off your scalp and hair.

I did the no shampoo for well over a year.

Here is what I found, it takes about 2-3 weeks for your scalp to adjust to only washing with water. After that your hair will no longer be oily. It also helped greatly with my dandruff. I normally have to use prescription topical steroids to control my dandruff.

Now the next part, I can't really explain, maybe someone else can. If I kept my hair a consistent length, I had no issues, but if I let my hair start going out longer without getting it cut, my hair would start getting more oily.

So I found that if I decided I wanted to grow my hair out a little bit. Say from 1 inch for a summer cut to 4-5 inches during the fall, I would need to shampoo every week or so until I got it to the length I wanted. Once it was to the desired length and I cut it regularly, no shampoo required.

I will also mention that I don't use soap except for washing my hands regularly.

My acne on my face has pretty much disappeared. Sometimes, I will feel a zit coming on but it goes away within a day without creating a head.
 

z1ggy

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You have greasy hair because you are constantly stripping all the oil off your scalp and hair.

I did the no shampoo for well over a year.

Here is what I found, it takes about 2-3 weeks for your scalp to adjust to only washing with water. After that your hair will no longer be oily. It also helped greatly with my dandruff. I normally have to use prescription topical steroids to control my dandruff.

Now the next part, I can't really explain, maybe someone else can. If I kept my hair a consistent length, I had no issues, but if I let my hair start going out longer without getting it cut, my hair would start getting more oily.

So I found that if I decided I wanted to grow my hair out a little bit. Say from 1 inch for a summer cut to 4-5 inches during the fall, I would need to shampoo every week or so until I got it to the length I wanted. Once it was to the desired length and I cut it regularly, no shampoo required.

I will also mention that I don't use soap except for washing my hands regularly.

My acne on my face has pretty much disappeared. Sometimes, I will feel a zit coming on but it goes away within a day without creating a head.

You sound extremely smelly.
 

Murloc

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I have greasy hair. After one day of no poo I look like a guy who's been homeless for 6 months.
that's normal though, it needs to adjust.

Generally, I think no poo is bs, but doing it only every few days is a good middle ground, especially if you have long hair.

I'm surprised hans' hair doesn't fall off with all that rubbing.
 
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Codewiz

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You sound extremely smelly.

Think what you want. I shower twice a day most of the time due to working out. I use deodorant. I work closely with other people. And my wife doesn't follow the same regimen as me. She would absolutely let me know if I had any odor. Hell, she will tell me if my breathe needs to be refreshed.

So no, not stinky. You are under the false assumption that oil smells. Oil on your skin doesn't smell. Odor causing bacteria smell. And most of those bacteria are in your sweat which is 100% water soluble. So taking a clean wash cloth and washing off in the shower will remove any smell.

EDIT: Actually, I am smelly at this exact moment because I just got done running 3 miles.
 

AstroManLuca

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My wife has been washing her hair with a simple mixture of baking soda and water. A couple of teaspoons of baking soda in a glass jar filled with water, stirred up, and then she pours it over her hair and lets it soak in while she showers, then rinses it out at the end. Apparently it's been working pretty good to get the stuff out of your hair without messing with the oil or whatever. It takes about a week for your scalp to stop producing higher levels of oils, and then it's pretty nice. Extremely cheap, too.
 

hans030390

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Think what you want. I shower twice a day most of the time due to working out. I use deodorant. I work closely with other people. And my wife doesn't follow the same regimen as me. She would absolutely let me know if I had any odor. Hell, she will tell me if my breathe needs to be refreshed.

So no, not stinky. You are under the false assumption that oil smells. Oil on your skin doesn't smell. Odor causing bacteria smell. And most of those bacteria are in your sweat which is 100% water soluble. So taking a clean wash cloth and washing off in the shower will remove any smell.

EDIT: Actually, I am smelly at this exact moment because I just got done running 3 miles.

I can vouch for this. I don't use soap currently, except for around my junk and rear. If you aren't literally dirty (sweat isn't dirt), you don't need soap to stay clean and smell nice. I do use deodorant. And it does help to exfoliate (I just use a clean rag while showering, which doesn't really take much more time than using body wash or soap).

I kid you not, last week my friend walked past me and said I smelled sexy (and yes, he's straight). I told him about my showering habits. He stared at me for a second, said, "Well, hmm...OK then," and went about his business. Two months before that, exact same situation with a different friend (straight male again). And my girlfriend has mentioned it before as well. So...

It has dramatically helped my acne, and my sky does get dry in the cold or low humidity any longer. Those are pluses.

Most people have been sold on the flawed idea that they need to wash themselves everyday with soap (or even more products). I only use shampoo or similar products in my hair because the water here is quite hard and leaves crap in your hair over time otherwise.