Has anyone got AMD HD 4000 series drivers and Catalyst working in Windows 8.1?

VirtualLarry

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Perhaps because HD 4000 is Intel's IGP, not AMD/ATI's?

Edit: Ok, ok people. I forgot that the HD4850 and HD4870 report themselves in the drivers as "HD 4000 series".

Generally, if someone has one of those cards, they specify it explicitly, like, "I can't get Windows 8.1 drivers for my HD4850".

Which, is still a crying shame. C'mon, AMD, those cards aren't THAT old. (They are DX11, right?)
 
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Qbah

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Perhaps because HD 4000 is Intel's IGP, not AMD/ATI's?

Brain fart, VirtualLarry? :D The HD4000 series - man, those were the cards! Caused like instant $100+ price drops from nVidia on the GTX260 and GTX280 :)

As for the OP... can't really help here. Looks like last WHQL drivers for this series is from January 2013 and last beta from April 2013. You tried both, so it seems you need to wait for an official release from AMD of another legacy set... or maybe there are some modded drivers around?
 

Arkadrel

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this is gonna sound abit harsh but.... those cards are what?
5-6years old or so?

Toss it out and by a cheap model new card.
The power bill will eventually probably off set the cost of buying the new card.

also the reason to use windows 8.1 is for the newer features, which a card that old wont support anyways.
 

tipoo

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Perhaps because HD 4000 is Intel's IGP, not AMD/ATI's?

:rolleyes:
AMD Radeon HD 4000 series, better? Not that you couldn't get that from "AMD HD 4000". Intels wasn't a series, and that was called HD Graphics 4000 anyways. Brain fart?

this is gonna sound abit harsh but.... those cards are what?
5-6years old or so?

Toss it out and by a cheap model new card.
The power bill will eventually probably off set the cost of buying the new card.

also the reason to use windows 8.1 is for the newer features, which a card that old wont support anyways.

4 years, and sadly this is for mobile, I should have added. But it doesn't really matter as both mobile and desktop are dictated by AMD rather than OEMs now, unless they opt out. But yes this is technically in "legacy" status, but I got them working with Windows 8, so they do update legacy ones for new Windows versions still.

And I actually like 8.1 apart from this, I even got rid of StartIsBack now that universal search is back. It's a bit faster in every regard than both prior OSs, and there are nice tweaks to Explorer (as well as fullscreen mode) too.
 
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KingFatty

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Keep us posted. I'm currently using an HD 4290 video card on Windows 8, and will be installing 8.1 whenever it is released.

So are you saying that the installation won't work for just the AMD downloadable drivers? But windows 8.1 works by using its own auto-detect driver right?
 

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Keep us posted. I'm currently using an HD 4290 video card on Windows 8, and will be installing 8.1 whenever it is released.

So are you saying that the installation won't work for just the AMD downloadable drivers? But windows 8.1 works by using its own auto-detect driver right?
The latest download wouldn't have a Win 8.1 INF section filled out. So by default it would refuse to install. You'd have to do the usual trickery to get it to install, at which point it should work.
 

escrow4

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If you use a modern OS use modern hardware. The old 4000's are obsolete and DX 10 only.
 

tipoo

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Keep us posted. I'm currently using an HD 4290 video card on Windows 8, and will be installing 8.1 whenever it is released.

So are you saying that the installation won't work for just the AMD downloadable drivers? But windows 8.1 works by using its own auto-detect driver right?

Yes, the driver alone that Windows 8.1 installed works fine, but that comes without Catalyst. It shows up as display driver version 8.97.10.6, fwiw.

I'm not sure if the legacy driver is newer or older than that version?

And yes to the above I've tried legacy.

To the people saying I should use modern hardware with a modern OS, again this is a laptop and I can't upgrade the graphics without buying a whole new machine, and its performance is fine for its use.
 
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edoantonioco

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I have ati radeon hd 4200, and I dont know if I should upgrade, if anybody has already installed W8.1 using radeon hd 2000-4000 series, any feedback will be great.
 

tipoo

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I have ati radeon hd 4200, and I dont know if I should upgrade, if anybody has already installed W8.1 using radeon hd 2000-4000 series, any feedback will be great.

As mentioned above, the default Windows 8.1 Radeon graphics driver alone will be there by itself and it works fine. But if you want Catalyst, it appears we have to wait.
 

edoantonioco

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As mentioned above, the default Windows 8.1 Radeon graphics driver alone will be there by itself and it works fine. But if you want Catalyst, it appears we have to wait.

Thanks for the info, seems to be than I can install it. But the default driver never use to be as good as the catalyst, and seems to be there wont be a newer catalyst-legacy driver, because the link in the main amd drivers page dissappear, so, seems to be they wont support W8.1 for "olders" cards. Maybe W8 legacy driver could be installed in W8.1, who knows?
 
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tipoo

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Thanks for the info, seems to be than I can install it. But the default driver never use to be as good as the catalyst, and seems to be there wont be a newer catalyst-legacy driver, because the link in the main amd drivers page dissappear, so, seems to be they wont support W8.1 for "olders" cards. Maybe W8 legacy driver could be installed in W8.1, who knows?

They will eventually update the legacy driver for Windows 8.1. The beta which supports legacy cards is supposed to support it but just won't install yet for some reason, so I'd guess the final will.

As it stands the default driver isn't really causing me any problems. Anyone know if the legacy display driver number is newer than the default driver I mentioned above?
 

Qbah

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You should be able to install just the Catalyst Suite without the driver.
 

fusionneur

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Hi! I registered just to share how I managed to install driver 13.1 on Windows 8.1 on a HD4850 card.


  1. First i installed 13.1 pack, without installing the driver which of course will fail, from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows 8 - 64. I installed APP SDK runtime, AMD Accelerated Transcoding, Drag and drop Transcoding, Media Foundation Decoders and AMD VISION Engine Control Center (most important).

  2. Then i went to device manager ( open cmd , type devmgmgt.msc) and then went to Display adapters -> Driver - > update driver -> browse my computer for driver software -> Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer -> check show compatible hardware

    From here i selected ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series and i installed it.

Note that on Windows 8.1, ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v11.1) is installed by default.

Also note that this trick worked after i had 13.1 installed on Windows 8 and upgraded to Windows 8.1. I don't know if this trick works if you install Windows 8.1 from scratch. BUT! There is always a BUT

There may be a workaround for this case too. Just force install the driver from
C:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display
 

coolsmurf

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was at my wits end after installing win 8.1, and horror that my hd4350 doesn't have any more legacy support.

but thankfully, i managed to get my display stretched fully after the step listed below. thanks!

Hi! I registered just to share how I managed to install driver 13.1 on Windows 8.1 on a HD4850 card.

  1. Then i went to device manager ( open cmd , type devmgmgt.msc) and then went to Display adapters -> Driver - > update driver -> browse my computer for driver software -> Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer -> check show compatible hardware

    From here i selected ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series and i installed it.
 

Conker10k

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Use the modified drivers like i said ;). If the newer version of the modified drivers don't work then use the older ones. Can be picky with the latest version.
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jclandau1

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Thank you so much fusionneur It finally worked, I had to run it a couple of times and also run the amd uninstall utility and reboot prior to installing the 13.1 package w/out the driver selected. In the Device Manager, I manually removed (w/ delete driver selected) the AMD driver then ran new hardware detection, et voila, I am back in full screen mode w/out the black all around my screen and also my "fuzzy" fonts are back to normal :) again than you :)

Hi! I registered just to share how I managed to install driver 13.1 on Windows 8.1 on a HD4850 card.


  1. First i installed 13.1 pack, without installing the driver which of course will fail, from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=legacy2&os=Windows 8 - 64. I installed APP SDK runtime, AMD Accelerated Transcoding, Drag and drop Transcoding, Media Foundation Decoders and AMD VISION Engine Control Center (most important).

  2. Then i went to device manager ( open cmd , type devmgmgt.msc) and then went to Display adapters -> Driver - > update driver -> browse my computer for driver software -> Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer -> check show compatible hardware

    From here i selected ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series and i installed it.

Note that on Windows 8.1, ATI RADEON HD 4800 Series (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM v11.1) is installed by default.

Also note that this trick worked after i had 13.1 installed on Windows 8 and upgraded to Windows 8.1. I don't know if this trick works if you install Windows 8.1 from scratch. BUT! There is always a BUT

There may be a workaround for this case too. Just force install the driver from
C:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc\Packages\Drivers\Display
 

fusionneur

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You are welcome.
I'd suggest you don't use AMD Catalyst Uninstall Utility since it is designed only for Windows 7 and can't mess things around very badly on Windows 8.
For uninstalling purposes, you could use Programs and Features in Windows and if that one fails, you can always use the Installer in C:\AMD\Support\13-1-legacy_vista_win7_win8_64_dd_ccc to wipe AMD CCC and device manager for uninstalling/deleting a driver.
 

index94307

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I can't seem to install it. Tried the beta too, always fails.

Just roll back pre-installed driver
- open Device Manager
- open Display Adapters
- double click on your adapter
- Driver Tab, Roll Back Driver button....wait for uninstallation...

Then just install the 13-1 pack again. I tested with stable version.

You'll install the the full pack (driver+ Catalyst) without any error.

Enjoy!