Has anyone ever been as prophetic as Steve Jobs?

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Ichinisan

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I love android but respect must be given when it is due. Jobs could make a product appear so irresistible that you just had to have it. He was a marketing genius who could probably have had people lining up to by toasted ice.

:thumbsup:

"Toasted ice! It flows like LIQUID!"
 

Paratus

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A history of handhelds before the iPhone. For those too young to remember.

Palm V
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Thin metal body and integrated battery. First must have handheld.

Handspring Visor with Springboard Cell phone. 2000

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Sony Clie T665 running Palm OS 4.0 2002
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I did mp3s, ebooks, Office documents, and video yes video (including episodes of Southpark) on this thing in 2002. It also had a commercial grade IR blaster for controlling AV equipment. And a high density 320x320 display and memory stick expansion.

Sony Clie NZ90 2003

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Everything the the T665 had plus 2 megapixel rotating camera with flash, removable battery, ARM processor, 320x480 screen, compact flash slot for memory or wifi, on board Bluetooth, and keyboard. Also a simple web browser and could run Flash circa 2003.

Palm Lifedrive 2005
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I still have this one working. Arm processor, inboard wifi, Bluetooth, 320x480 screen, SD card and 4 GB of onboard storage. It was a great multimedia handheld for movies, music, ebooks and surfing. I used to post to ATOT with it. There were about 30,000 apps available for it.

All of these were years before the iPhone.

The one thing the iPhone did have was the first really decent mobile web browser.

Posted from my 5s. Sigh.
 
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ultimatebob

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A history of handhelds before the iPhone. For those too young to remember.

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You forgot the Windows CE/Mobile handhelds. Those were around as early as 2000, had WiFi in 2002, and started having integrated phones in 2003.

Sadly, they were HORRIBLE. USB sync was unreliable as hell, and the damn things crashed often required a hard reset to recover.
 

Paratus

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You forgot the Windows CE/Mobile handhelds. Those were around as early as 2000, had WiFi in 2002, and started having integrated phones in 2003.

Sadly, they were HORRIBLE. USB sync was unreliable as hell, and the damn things crashed often required a hard reset to recover.

Hence why I didn't cover them. I was palm all the way back in the day.

That's why I can look down my nose at the Apple Android pissing match. It had nothing on Palm vs PocketPC. :p
 

BoberFett

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lol, I love it when nerds rage out. First it was Apple users were sheep because they went with the majority. Now Android has the majority of the market, but they aren't sheep?

lol, that's great. Welcome Walmart shopper. :)

You seem to get quite butthurt when people disagree that Apple produces the best electronics ever invented in the history of the universe. You really need to let go of this unhealthy obsession.
 

BoberFett

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I CAN NOT STAND big goofy phones! Unfortunately there are people that like that and apparently the retardation is spreading. Apple will release a 5.5" phone to shut these clowns up, but will also offer a much more reasonably sized 4.7" phone for sensible users.

Wow. Even in death, Jobs' mind control powers are still working on some people.
 

BarkingGhostar

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I don't own any Apple products but anyone that says that they have not made some revolutionary products, is just plain retarded.
Well, they did taken BSD and install it on a PC hardware computer to call it a Mac. That was revolutionary. :colbert:
 

Fritzo

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You forgot the Windows CE/Mobile handhelds. Those were around as early as 2000, had WiFi in 2002, and started having integrated phones in 2003.

Sadly, they were HORRIBLE. USB sync was unreliable as hell, and the damn things crashed often required a hard reset to recover.

LOL- I had one. If you rebooted the device you lost all of your data :D I still have nightmares about getting Activesync to work.
 

cronos

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And this predates all of those:

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Yes, Apple Newton was cool. But you know why only a handful of enthusiasts in the world know about it? Because pretty much its entire existence is when Steve Jobs wasn't at Apple to sell it.

In fact, it's one of the very first projects that Steve Jobs killed when he came back.
 

88keys

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Steve Jobs wasn't a tech-revolutionary. He was however a genius in terms of marketing and product design.
 

zephyrprime

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Same thing with the whole 'it's so easy to use' jazz. Fuck, I still can't use an iProduct. It is not intuitive to me, whatsoever. Whatever the function of that one lone button is supposed to be, it is never what I am wanting or expecting it to be. I think it was just 'easy enough' to use, in a way that was simply different, but no better than, its competitors. BUT, people were told...'it's so easy'...so they figured it out.
No, you're just weird. You're not neurotypical. For the large majority of the population, his designs really are easy to use.

Jobs never invented anything. PCs, Smartphones, tablets - all invented earlier and sold earlier by others. What he did was he made things betters and easier enough for the common. Which is no you.