Harry Ried has found revenue for Health Bill: Tax on Ugly People

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Desperately seeking money to pay for the legislation, Mr. Reid came up with a new source of financing: a 5 percent tax on elective cosmetic medical procedures. The tax would be paid by patients, but collected by doctors and clinics and forwarded to the government.

The tax would be calculated as 5 percent of the amount paid for an elective cosmetic procedure, whether by the patient, insurance or other sources. The tax would not apply to cosmetic surgery for people with congenital abnormalities, disfiguring diseases or traumatic injuries.

Full article is here. The article talks about the new Health Bill, but this snippet was particularly interesting to me.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/19/health/policy/19health.html?hp

Take from those less fortunate and give to the lazy. Good Job Harry.
 
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CPA

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I guess cosmetic surgery is the new cigarette. Don't most states have a cigarette tax that funds healthcare? Now granted, there's some correlation between smoking and overall health and healthcare costs, but there is no correlation between elective cosmetic surgery and overall healthcare costs. Of course, that doesn't really matter much to the Feds, now does it.
 

Genx87

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Maybe Harry should look in the hole in the ground he typically places his head. I heard there might be some loose change down there.
 

ayabe

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5% tax on circus tits and injecting poison shit in your face? I say it should be 10%, the harm to society mandates it.

Edit - And I'm assuming this is a joke OP:

"Take from those less fortunate and give to the lazy. Good Job Harry. "

Less fortunate? I'd say the people shelling out for tens of thousands of dollars in elective surgery probably aren't considered the "less fortunate" class by very many these days.
 

BoberFett

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5% tax on circus tits and injecting poison shit in your face? I say it should be 10%, the harm to society mandates it.

Really?

What about women who get mastectomies? If they want their "tits" back after surviving cancer how much are you going to charge them? What if they were an A cup before and want to be a C cup after? How much do you tax them?

In short, you're a piece of shit.
 

Atreus21

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5% tax on circus tits and injecting poison shit in your face? I say it should be 10%, the harm to society mandates it.

Edit - And I'm assuming this is a joke OP:

"Take from those less fortunate and give to the lazy. Good Job Harry. "

Less fortunate? I'd say the people shelling out for tens of thousands of dollars in elective surgery probably aren't considered the "less fortunate" class by very many these days.

Yes indeed. We know what's best for people.

We shouldn't allow people to eat fatty foods either. They SHOULD NOT WANT THESE THINGS, AS THEY DON'T NEED THEM. The harm to society mandates it.

People don't need to enjoy life. They ought to pay for every indulgence, because they must be TAUGHT.

Generalizations for the mother fucking win.

In short, you're a piece of shit.
 
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ayabe

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Really?

What about women who get mastectomies? If they want their "tits" back after surviving cancer how much are you going to charge them? What if they were an A cup before and want to be a C cup after? How much do you tax them?

In short, you're a piece of shit.

Wow did you even read the article? This is for 100% pure elective procedures and mastectomies aren't this. But you never miss an opportunity for a personal attack, so well done.
 

Xcobra

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well if its not necessary then by all means sure. But for something like what Boberfett said then I would exempt that because it could be deemed necessary. Putting botox in your face is not necessary, tax that shit.

EDIT: looks like the article already says that.
 

BoberFett

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Wow did you even read the article? This is for 100% pure elective procedures and mastectomies aren't this. But you never miss an opportunity for a personal attack, so well done.

After the mastectomy, it sure as hell is an elective procedure.
 

BoberFett

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well if its not necessary then by all means sure. But for something like what Boberfett said then I would exempt that because it could be deemed necessary. Putting botox in your face is not necessary, tax that shit.

EDIT: looks like the article already says that.

Please explain to me how fake breasts are considered medically necessary.

Edit: And I'm tired of you hearing Democrats determining that "It's not necessary. Tax it." Fuck that. You people are as greedy as the greediest Republicans. What's worse is that you try to hide behind your "Good of society" bullshit.

Also, that "shit" is already taxed at whatever rate the state deems proper for medical services and the cost of the goods themselves. This is an additional "luxury" tax. Why don't you just come out of the closet and say what it really is. A jealousy tax. You're jealous of people who have things that can't afford, and think you should get a cut of it when they do purchase something.
 
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ayabe

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After the mastectomy, it sure as hell is an elective procedure.

I don't believe you'd find many doctors that would agree with you. Losing a breast has a lasting psychological effect on women, just like if your face was mangled in a car crash.
 

Genx87

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5% tax on circus tits and injecting poison shit in your face? I say it should be 10%, the harm to society mandates it.

Edit - And I'm assuming this is a joke OP:

"Take from those less fortunate and give to the lazy. Good Job Harry. "

Less fortunate? I'd say the people shelling out for tens of thousands of dollars in elective surgery probably aren't considered the "less fortunate" class by very many these days.

I think posting on the internet is harmful to society. I want a 10% tax placed on your internet connection.
 

Genx87

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Wow did you even read the article? This is for 100% pure elective procedures and mastectomies aren't this. But you never miss an opportunity for a personal attack, so well done.

Did you bother to read his response? He isnt talking about mastectomies, but the plastic surgury after that to rebuild breasts.
 

BoberFett

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I don't believe you'd find many doctors that would agree with you. Losing a breast has a lasting psychological effect on women, just like if your face was mangled in a car crash.

So being born flat chested has no psychological effect on a woman?
 

Moonbeam

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There should be no taxes of any kind. We should live in caves and die at 40 as a max.

On the bright side, this doesn't tax ugly people, only people who feel ugly. There are no ugly people.

Ugliness exists in the eye of the beholder so all ugliness anybody ever sees is how they were made to feel about what they see.

Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou.
 

Sinsear

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Edit: And I'm tired of you hearing Democrats determining that "It's not necessary. Tax it." Fuck that. You people are as greedy as the greediest Republicans. What's worse is that you try to hide behind your "Good of society" bullshit.

Also, that "shit" is already taxed at whatever rate the state deems proper for medical services and the cost of the goods themselves. This is an additional "luxury" tax. Why don't you just come out of the closet and say what it really is. A jealousy tax. You're jealous of people who have things that can't afford, and think you should get a cut of it when they do purchase something.


Amen.
 

BoberFett

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There should be no taxes of any kind. We should live in caves and die at 40 as a max.

On the bright side, this doesn't tax ugly people, only people who feel ugly. There are no ugly people.

Ugliness exists in the eye of the beholder so all ugliness anybody ever sees is how they were made to feel about what they see.

Oh my Beloved, wherever I look it appears to be Thou.

Women with mastectomies must be ugly, because we deem their breasts as medically necessary and give them a tax break to get those nasty things fixed.
 

dmcowen674

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Please explain to me how fake breasts are considered medically necessary.

Edit: And I'm tired of you hearing Democrats determining that "It's not necessary. Tax it." Fuck that. You people are as greedy as the greediest Republicans. What's worse is that you try to hide behind your "Good of society" bullshit.

Also, that "shit" is already taxed at whatever rate the state deems proper for medical services and the cost of the goods themselves.

This is an additional "luxury" tax.

Why don't you just come out of the closet and say what it really is.

A jealousy tax.

You're jealous of people who have things that can't afford, and think you should get a cut of it when they do purchase something.

If it's not necessary and you have a shit load of money, what is your problem paying your fair share?

I'm sick of people like you always skirting your responsibility to society.

Newsflash - It' s not all about you.

To live here you need to contribute or leave.

Obviously you don't want to contribute so get the fuck out.

Thank you
 

shadow9d9

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Please explain to me how fake breasts are considered medically necessary.

Edit: And I'm tired of you hearing Democrats determining that "It's not necessary. Tax it." Fuck that. You people are as greedy as the greediest Republicans. What's worse is that you try to hide behind your "Good of society" bullshit.

Also, that "shit" is already taxed at whatever rate the state deems proper for medical services and the cost of the goods themselves. This is an additional "luxury" tax. Why don't you just come out of the closet and say what it really is. A jealousy tax. You're jealous of people who have things that can't afford, and think you should get a cut of it when they do purchase something.

I'm tired of the US spending 680 billion a year on empire building, not counting the 2 endless occupations that the republicans got us into without having a plan to pay for it, while cutting taxes.... then they have the nerve to complain about taxes!

For once, americans will actually get a benefit for taxes.