Harry Reid uses the 'nuclear option'

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ProfJohn

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"Carney also said the White House is confident that "the overwhelming majority" of Senate Democrats will back the plan."

Which means he expects some Democrats to vote no. There are only 53 Democrats in the Senate which means 3 no votes and the bill doesn't get to 50.

I just listed three senators who seem to not like the bill. Based on that I wouldn't be surprised if the Obama presented bill ever get a vote or if they take it apart and change it before hand.
 

Ausm

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Perhaps they don't think a jobs bill will work??


Hell they ran on Jobs,Jobs and more Jobs!

When unemployment is a over 9%??? LMAO I call that not having not having a clue on how to fix the problem .
 

Genx87

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Why does the Republcan controlled house go on a month's vacation every quarter but yet have produced no Jobs Bill?

This isnt rocket science. The house republicans dont believe such a bill will actually create jobs. Thus they dont create a bill.
 

Genx87

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Hell they ran on Jobs,Jobs and more Jobs!

When unemployment is a over 9%??? LMAO I call that not having not having a clue on how to fix the problem .

Who does? Obama and democrats certainly dont.
 

ProfJohn

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Hell they ran on Jobs,Jobs and more Jobs!

When unemployment is a over 9%??? LMAO I call that not having not having a clue on how to fix the problem .
So you are blaming the party that controls one third of government for unemployment while making excuses for the party that controls the other two thirds?
 

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It is a valid question. You seem quite happy dismissing the failure of 2/3rd's of the govt while jumping all over the other 1/3rd.

Last time I checked the President doesn't get to vote in the Legislative process.
 

Genx87

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Last time I checked the President doesn't get to vote in the Legislative process.

I cant tell if you are intentionally obtuse or really this clueless. Did this jobs bill magically appear out of thin air? And the president gets a vote. He can veto the bill or sign it.
 
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ProfJohn

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Last time I checked the President doesn't get to vote in the Legislative process.
Actually he gets the biggest vote of all with the ability to veto a bill.

No bill can get passed without his approval or a two thirds majority to over ride his veto.

And my point, which I am sure you got, is that there are there elected bodies in our government and two are controlled by Democrats and one by Republicans and yet you want to blame the minority party for our problems?

Maybe you should get the Senate to pass a bill BEFORE you complain about the house...
 

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I cant tell if you are intentionally obtuse or really this clueless. Did this jobs bill magically appear out of no where?

Hey wasn't it your side that has produced absolutely jack shit for a Jobs bill and was bashing President Obama relentlessly in the Media about it ....well guess what he produced a Bill which was on paper also and you assholes still don't like it.
 

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Actually he gets the biggest vote of all with the ability to veto a bill.

No bill can get passed without his approval or a two thirds majority to over ride his veto.

And my point, which I am sure you got, is that there are there elected bodies in our government and two are controlled by Democrats and one by Republicans and yet you want to blame the minority party for our problems?

Maybe you should get the Senate to pass a bill BEFORE you complain about the house...


Hey Dumbfuck don't you realize all spending bills originate from the house so this is all going to be a futile effort anyway.
 

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If I dont need to be an expert to form an opinion. Why did you ask the question?

I was talking to you about it in the first place you butted in ...or do you have some short term memory loss?
 

Genx87

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Hey wasn't it your side that has produced absolutely jack shit for a Jobs bill and was bashing President Obama relentlessly in the Media about it ....well guess what he produced a Bill which was on paper also and you assholes still don't like it.

We already discussed the republicans dont feel the govt can provide jobs in any meaningful way, thus no jobs bill from the house. And what are you talking about? Republicans in the senate want to vote on Obama's bill but Reid is blocking it. Why does Reid hate America?