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Harry Potter question

pontifex

pontifex

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Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
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I totally think the Empire would decimate the Federation. That said, who'd win between the Emperor, Kirk and Dumbledore in a contest for picking up chicks?
 
Reason #1 - It's a book, leaving holiday's out takes away from some of the events that make the books entertaining.

Reason #2 - Yule is not Christian, it's pagan and before that it was the winter solstice. Many cultures have celebrated these holidays long before Jesus was born.

Reason #3 - Many people in our current times who don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas. As these books are set in semi-current times it makes sense that they would celebrate Christmas.
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
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Why ask a question that we can't even begin to address?

The HP world opens up so many countless possibilities about God(s) and religion that to make an sort of guess would be silly. If anything, it supports the idea of supernatural forces and supreme beings.
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Reason #1 - It's a book, leaving holiday's out takes away from some of the events that make the books entertaining.

Reason #2 - Yule is not Christian, it's pagan and before that it was the winter solstice. Many cultures have celebrated these holidays long before Jesus was born.

Reason #3 - Many people in our current times who don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas. As these books are set in semi-current times it makes sense that they would celebrate Christmas.
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reason #2 is invalid because they call it christmas. there is no mention of yule or winter solstice at all when discussing the holiday.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Reason #1 - It's a book, leaving holiday's out takes away from some of the events that make the books entertaining.

Reason #2 - Yule is not Christian, it's pagan and before that it was the winter solstice. Many cultures have celebrated these holidays long before Jesus was born.

Reason #3 - Many people in our current times who don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas. As these books are set in semi-current times it makes sense that they would celebrate Christmas.
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reason #2 is invalid because they call it christmas. there is no mention of yule or winter solstice at all when discussing the holiday.
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They refer to a Yule ball in Goblet of Fire, but mostly you are correct.
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Reason #1 - It's a book, leaving holiday's out takes away from some of the events that make the books entertaining.

Reason #2 - Yule is not Christian, it's pagan and before that it was the winter solstice. Many cultures have celebrated these holidays long before Jesus was born.

Reason #3 - Many people in our current times who don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas. As these books are set in semi-current times it makes sense that they would celebrate Christmas.
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reason #2 is invalid because they call it christmas. there is no mention of yule or winter solstice at all when discussing the holiday.
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They refer to a Yule ball in Goblet of Fire, but mostly you are correct.
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ok, haven't made it that far yet, only at Prisoner of Azkaban so far.
 
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: pontifex
Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
Click to expand...

I totally think the Empire would decimate the Federation. That said, who'd win between the Emperor, Kirk and Dumbledore in a contest for picking up chicks?
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Kirk, 'cause he's a dumbsh!t and he always scores the chicks.

EDIT: Foolish me, posting twice like this in one thread.
 
Originally posted by: Gagabiji
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: pontifex
Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
Click to expand...

I totally think the Empire would decimate the Federation. That said, who'd win between the Emperor, Kirk and Dumbledore in a contest for picking up chicks?
Click to expand...

Kirk, 'cause he's a dumbsh!t and he always scores the chicks.
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Any ground battle = Star wars win Jedi > *
Any Space battle = Star Trek win Enterprize > *

That's my opinion anyway 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: Gagabiji
Originally posted by: rivan
Originally posted by: pontifex
Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
Click to expand...

I totally think the Empire would decimate the Federation. That said, who'd win between the Emperor, Kirk and Dumbledore in a contest for picking up chicks?
Click to expand...

Kirk, 'cause he's a dumbsh!t and he always scores the chicks.
Click to expand...

Any ground battle = Star wars win Jedi > *
Any Space battle = Star Trek win Enterprize > *

That's my opinion anyway 🙂
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Executer > Enterprise
 
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This is just a sentence that makes it look like ron is not the subect of whatever it could be (so those who accidently glance do not see it. Ron dies on Christmas Eve when they are back at the Weasly's house because Sirius Black's son follows them home. This is just a sentence that makes it look like ron is not the subect of whatever it could be.
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Why do the wizards celebrate Christmas and other religious holidays? Wouldn't that be a muggle thing or was Jesus a wizard?

Most of the wizards or students don't know anything about muggles and the muggle world.
Wouldn't the existance of magic be proof that Jesus and God didn't exist, unless they too were wizards or something along those lines?
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They're children's novels, not religious treatises. The only thing the existence of magic in them proves is that magic exists in them.

 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Reason #1 - It's a book, leaving holiday's out takes away from some of the events that make the books entertaining.

Reason #2 - Yule is not Christian, it's pagan and before that it was the winter solstice. Many cultures have celebrated these holidays long before Jesus was born.

Reason #3 - Many people in our current times who don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas. As these books are set in semi-current times it makes sense that they would celebrate Christmas.
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reason #2 is invalid because they call it christmas. there is no mention of yule or winter solstice at all when discussing the holiday.
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if i am not wrong, they used to have a different name for this celebration b4 it was called Christmas!
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: FoBoT
christmas is about presents and eating food
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thats what it seems like in the books. i guess maybe they just celebrate the commercial side of the holiday
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Basically.

I thought about the same thing, but you have to realize that Christmas is just considered another holiday in Europe. It isn't as closely tied to religion as in the US.
 
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
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SPOILER FROM THE STOLEN COPY OF THE 7TH BOOK***********


DO NOT READ POST IF YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILER's!!!!!!!
























































This is just a sentence that makes it look like ron is not the subect of whatever it could be (so those who accidently glance do not see it. Ron dies on Christmas Eve when they are back at the Weasly's house because Sirius Black's son follows them home. This is just a sentence that makes it look like ron is not the subect of whatever it could be.
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and u are an idiot 🙂, just jokin
 
Originally posted by: santz
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
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DO NOT READ POST IF YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILER's!!!!!!!
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and u are an idiot 🙂, just jokin
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How so? Just go on the site that was on Slashdot, they stole a copy of the 7th book from Scholastic's publishing depot in WY.

 
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Originally posted by: santz
Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
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SPOILER FROM THE STOLEN COPY OF THE 7TH BOOK***********


DO NOT READ POST IF YOU DO NOT WANT SPOILER's!!!!!!!
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and u are an idiot 🙂, just jokin
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How so? Just go on the site that was on Slashdot, they stole a copy of the 7th book from Scholastic's publishing depot in WY.
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7th book, which has not even been printed yet! of course, we all believe you dude, cough cough
 
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