Harry Potter ploy to stop movie pirates: Military-style night-vision

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Lifer
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Harry Potter and the wizard idea to foil cinema pirates

Martin Wainwright
Monday May 31, 2004
The Guardian

Cinema ushers across Britain go into action today with a new piece of equipment which makes their ice-cream trays and hand torches look tame.
Military-style night-sights have been sent to every outlet in the country showing the new Harry Potter film, The Prisoner of Azkaban.

Staff have been instructed to spend all two hours and 22 minutes of the film scanning the dark - for pirates making illegal copies.

"I've never known a company to go to such lengths to protect a film," said Jamie Graham, manager of the Vue cinema at Cheshire Oaks, Wirral, where the red monocle devices are ready for action.

The precaution has been taken by the film's distributor, Warner Brothers, after an epidemic of poor-quality, grainy versions of the two previous Potter films.

Surreptitious recording from cinema seats, sometimes interrupted by the head of the person in front shifting and blocking the action, has become a serious menace, according to the industry.

Most cinemas now screen an appeal to audiences to shop any neighbour suspected of filming, along with warnings about mobile phones and adverts for popcorn.

Mr Graham said: "Video piracy is rife everywhere, and with the UK screening the film four days before the rest of the world, Warner was concerned the movie would end up on the internet."

Pirate DVD versions of the boy wizard's earlier adventures were traced to Britain through codes imprinted on the films as a security device.

The night sights, together with the coding and experiments with watermarks, have added significantly to distribution costs. But Warner sees the investment as negligible compared with the threat to the whole industry.

Staff at the Vue will be "very discreet" with their potentially frightening cyclopean attachments, Mr Graham said, but action against offenders would be swift.

Much like the battered young wizards on screen, who are constantly being whirled about by baddies, pirates will be "hauled out of their seats and reported straight away to the police".

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Aves

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You'd think the MPAA would have figured by now that it's the people who work in the theater that they really need to worry about.


Edit: Don't forget people in the industry. Every day you see new full retail DVD rips showing up on the Internet months before scheduled release, you can't blame that on some jackass with a camcorder.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: aves2k
You'd think the MPAA would have figured by now that it's the people who work in the theater that they really need to worry about.
 

vegetation

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I always thought it was employee inside jobs. The few versions I've seen posted around all looked like tripod mounted devices without any heads getting in the way.
 

Calin

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Why not just run metal detectors at theater doors?

The recording cameras might not have enough metallic structure to be identified as such. Also there is the possibility of false alarms (keys, nickels, dimes and so on).

And I wouldn't like very much to be considered a criminal (if piracy is a criminal offense and not a civil one, as RIAA and MPAA would like to suggest.

Calin
 

Nebor

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Couldn't they just make the film or projector work in such a way that it produces an unusable image when recorded w/ a video recorder?
 

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Couldn't they just make the film or projector work in such a way that it produces an unusable image when recorded w/ a video recorder?

remember when sony dropped like 200 mil developing an anti-piracy technique for cd's and some pirates figured out that you could bypass it with a ring from a black marker around the cd?

keep it simple
 

So

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Couldn't they just make the film or projector work in such a way that it produces an unusable image when recorded w/ a video recorder?

The bootleggers would get around that pretty quick.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: So
Originally posted by: Nebor
Couldn't they just make the film or projector work in such a way that it produces an unusable image when recorded w/ a video recorder?

The bootleggers would get around that pretty quick.

They'd need some sort of special camera. Which would require some company to make such a camera. Which probably wouldn't happen.
 
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Originally posted by: Ikonomi
Y'know, there's a pirate release of Prisoner of Azkaban out already. :p

some dude geting to 2nd base with Hermoine... man, that's just wrong... almost as wrong as that part ware harry dies.
 

Ikonomi

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
Y'know, there's a pirate release of Prisoner of Azkaban out already. :p

some dude geting to 2nd base with Hermoine... man, that's just wrong... almost as wrong as that part ware harry dies.

It's true, Ron is a pervert.



Actually, I was looking at a post about the video game, not the movie. It's what I get for not actually reading. Too quick to discount Warner Bros' anti-bootlegging efforts. That, and the first screenings haven't happened yet.

I was coming back to edit my post, but it's already been immortalized in quote form! :D
 

Pepsei

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I was going to say, I remember seeing it available, but not the movie.

I would try to get to 2nd base with Emma Watson, if I was her age.
 

BeauJangles

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This isn't a good test anyway. The latest arrests by the FBI and other law inforcement agencies have effectively destroyed the most prolific pirating groups. Even if this prevents the movie from being released early online, I firmly believe that has more to do with the lack of skilled piraters rather than the efforts of the theaters.
 

Babbles

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I think it would be a good deterrent for the 'casual' person wanting to pirate a movie, however as many others said most of the 'good' pirates are inside jobs.
 

Syringer

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You mean those 5 seconds of text at the bottom of the movie halfway in that says "This is a screening, not to be reproduced" isn't enough?

Not that I know about it :)
 

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Originally posted by: aves2k
You'd think the MPAA would have figured by now that it's the people who work in the theater that they really need to worry about.
Agreed, moviegoers pay them ~$10 to sit through a half hour of advertisements. That's like some kind of magic trick, it's absolute genius. They figured out how to do that, they should be able to figure out anything :p Who the hell wants to see a copy made with a consumer-level camera in a dark theatre with peoples' heads in the way constantly anyway? :confused:
 

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Why not just run metal detectors at theater doors?

don't think people would like that.. would cause a scene. a guy that peers at the audience from some dark corner with goggles isn't going to be noticed.
 

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Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Nebor
Why not just run metal detectors at theater doors?

The recording cameras might not have enough metallic structure to be identified as such. Also there is the possibility of false alarms (keys, nickels, dimes and so on).

And I wouldn't like very much to be considered a criminal (if piracy is a criminal offense and not a civil one, as RIAA and MPAA would like to suggest.

Calin

Piracy IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. Its not just the RIAA/MPAA saying it, piracy is a violation of federal law, and you are slapped with massive fines and the possibility of jail time. There are quite a few people involved with piracy in jail.
 

zimu

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Originally posted by: digitalsm
Originally posted by: Calin
Originally posted by: Nebor
Why not just run metal detectors at theater doors?

The recording cameras might not have enough metallic structure to be identified as such. Also there is the possibility of false alarms (keys, nickels, dimes and so on).

And I wouldn't like very much to be considered a criminal (if piracy is a criminal offense and not a civil one, as RIAA and MPAA would like to suggest.

Calin

Piracy IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE. Its not just the RIAA/MPAA saying it, piracy is a violation of federal law, and you are slapped with massive fines and the possibility of jail time. There are quite a few people involved with piracy in jail.

hush you.