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ivwshane

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Please. Dank is of the burn the village to save it persuasion. You know, burn it all down & start over. I'm not.

While I don't subscribe to the burn it all down mentality, I certainly can't fault someone who does because they are exhausted from people self inflicting misery.

You can't want something for someone more than they want it for themselves.
 

esquared

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Fat ass cheeto is already saying the Harley Davidson's problems are not his fault.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-says-harley-davidsons-problems-arent-his-fault/
He said:
"Early this year Harley-Davidson said they would move much of their plant operations in Kansas City to Thailand."
"The president said in tweets Tuesday that the company had already announced it was closing a Kansas City plant.
Union officials have said those jobs are going to Thailand. Harley-Davidson has denied that."
Another lie from his pie hole.

They are/were going to open up another plant in Thailand. This from a month ago.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/25/har...-factory-to-serve-southeast-asian-market.html
"The Thailand facility "will allow us to be more responsive and competitive in the Asean region and China,"
Harley-Davidson public relations manager Katie Whitmore said."
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The plant would let Milwaukee-based Harley-Davidson avoid Thailand's up to 60 percent tariff on imported motorcycles and help it get tax breaks when exporting to Thailand's neighbors, thanks to a trade arrangement among members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nation (ASEAN).
Harley opened a plant in India in 2011. It also assembles motorcycles at a plant in Brazil."

The reason for the shift of some production to EU is:
The company says it's doing so because of tariffs it's facing in a trade dispute between the U.S. and the European Union.
EU tariffs on Harley's motorcycles exported from the U.S. have surged from 6 percent to 31 percent,
 

Jhhnn

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While I don't subscribe to the burn it all down mentality, I certainly can't fault someone who does because they are exhausted from people self inflicting misery.

You can't want something for someone more than they want it for themselves.

And there's a whole army of Russian trolls & bots marching with them, same as they march with the Trumpsters.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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And there's a whole army of Russian trolls & bots marching with them, same as they march with the Trumpsters.

Those bots aren't calling for Democrats to rise up and to be a bigger force. Those bots are calling for Democrats to stand down and be respectful and to protest between the hours of 2pm-3:30pm.
 
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Jhhnn

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I don't think he's tearing then down, I think he's trying to empower them because Democrats have a history of being feckless.

I think we have to pick a side, like it or not. We can let Trump & the GOP destroy what's right & decent about this country or we can vote for Democrats. The rest is bullshit.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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I think we have to pick a side, like it or not. We can let Trump & the GOP destroy what's right & decent about this country or we can vote for Democrats. The rest is bullshit.

Absolutely, its a binary choice.
 

Jhhnn

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Those bots aren't calling for Democrats to rise up and to be a bigger force. Those bots are calling for Democrats to stand down and be respectful and to protest between the hours of 2pm-3:30pm.

They're a choir telling us we've already lost, just like Dank.
 
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Those bots aren't calling for Democrats to rise up and to be a bigger force. Those bots are calling for Democrats to stand down and be respectful and to protest between the hours of 2pm-3:30pm.

The bots and trolls work both angles along with any other disruptive tactic that can be thought of.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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That being the case, I see adjectives like clueless & feckless as counterproductive. Might as well just stay home because Dems won't do anything, anyway, right?

I see the opposite. I see a call to not be those things.
 

dank69

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If enough people think that way it becomes a self fulfilling prophesy. We don't have to destroy the system to make it better serve the People.
It became self-fulfilling the day America put Trump in the WH and the GOP in control of Congress.
 

Homerboy

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Added bonus - he's in Milwaukee today to visit Scooter's new FoxConn(ed) plant. He'll be 10 mins from the HD headquaters (and 2 blocks from my work). You think he's going to swing by HD and say hello?
 

Mai72

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Added bonus - he's in Milwaukee today to visit Scooter's new FoxConn(ed) plant. He'll be 10 mins from the HD headquaters (and 2 blocks from my work). You think he's going to swing by HD and say hello?

He might, but I doubt it.

I wonder if HD will face backlash from the people who buy their products?
 

Fenixgoon

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He might, but I doubt it.

I wonder if HD will face backlash from the people who buy their products?

it would be hilarious if they did, because the only other option was for HD to raise prices, which consumers everywhere would hate.

yes, here's $2200 extra for the same product thanks to our brilliant president's tariffs and fantasies of trade war. please, take some more.
 

kage69

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Can't wait for all the Youtube videos of raging Trumptardians tossing their motorcycles out of their windows.

lol

I said pretty much the same thing to my wife last night; cue the youtube clips of Harleys getting the Yeti cooler treatment. Hahaha.

"Not sure why Chuck put his hog down with a .45-70, but it was probably Obama's fault."