[hardware.fr] FreeSync Proposal Adopted By VESA

[dacostafilipe]

AMD FreeSync proposal adopted by VESA (hardware.fr) :

http://www.hardware.fr/news/13640/amd-freesync-proposition-adoptee-par-vesa.html

Translation : http://www.google.com/translate?hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardware.fr%2Fnews%2F13640%2Famd-freesync-proposition-adoptee-par-vesa.html

Next time start a new argument instead of necroing an old one.
-- stahlhart

 

[sontin]

So, there hasn't been a standard before G-Sync. :hmm:

 

[NTMBK]

So, there hasn't been a standard before G-Sync. :hmm:

What do you mean "before G-Sync"? G-Sync is a proprietary extension, not a standard.

Anyway, great news. A standard should hopefully translate into more displays on the market supporting it. And hopefully it will be compatible with G-Sync monitors/NVidia GPUs too, I'd hate to see this kind of great technology balkanised.

 

[sontin]

Without G-Sync there would be no Freesync. There is nothing in DP1.2 which allows displays manufactures to release lcds with this technique.

 

[NTMBK]

Without G-Sync there would be no Freesync. There is nothing in DP1.2 with allows displays manufactures to release lcds with this technique.

I don't think anyone is denying that. G-Sync is a cool bit of tech, and NVidia did a good job coming up with it. Now hopefully that it has been standardised the proprietary nature can go away and everybody can enjoy it. :thumbsup:

 

[sontin]

"Everybody"? Right now nobody can enjoy it. Not only that for "Freesync" you even need a new GPU from AMD (or Intel or nVidia).

Looks like you need to spend more money for Freesync than for G-Sync. :lol:

 

[NTMBK]

"Everybody"? Right now nobody can enjoy it. Not only that for "Freesync" you even need a new GPU from AMD (or Intel or nVidia).

Looks like you need throw more money onto Freesync than onto G-Sync. :lol:

Um, no? The demos of "Freesync" have all used existing GCN GPUs, which is a pretty strong indication that current AMD GPUs should support the standard just fine. And given that NVidia GPUs can support G-Sync, which is effectively the same thing, hopefully they will also support the standard. (Give or take a few driver updates.)

And yes, nobody can use it just yet, because they're still finalising the standard. :hmm:

 

[KingFatty]

The article (translation) mentions DisplayPort 1.2a standard. What video cards could possibly support that, even with driver/bios update? Are the parts of 1.2a that need new hardware?

 

[VulgarDisplay]

We all knew this was going to happen. Its why I didn't jump on gsync in the first place. As I said ages ago in the original thread, monitors often outlast the rest of your components so why lock your self to one vendor?

Nvidia just had the same thing happen to them that amd had happen with mantle and consumers win.

 

[Despoiler]

The article (translation) mentions DisplayPort 1.2a standard. What video cards could possibly support that, even with driver/bios update? Are the parts of 1.2a that need new hardware?

DP1.2a is the current displayport version. It's what everyone is already using.

 

[sontin]

Um, no? The demos of "Freesync" have all used existing GCN GPUs, which is a pretty strong indication that current AMD GPUs should support the standard just fine.

Sorry, but there is no freesync demo.
Or do you mean the "look we have two netbooks with eDP which show you static frametimes"?

BTW: Why would there be a need for a change in the existing standard when the function is already there? :hmm:

 

[Despoiler]

Sorry, but there is no freesync demo.
Or do you mean the "look we have two netbooks with eDP which show you static frametimes"?

BTW: Why would there be a need for a change in the existing standard when the function is already there? :hmm:

So they demo'd nothing and then got a standards body to ratify it? Seriously.....

 

[sontin]

So they demo'd nothing and then got a standards body to ratify it? Seriously.....

Why not?
It's a)optional in 1.2(a) and b) it doesn't mean it works like G-Sync or shows the same result.

Like most patents: A lot is not real or only tested with simulations.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

Why are you guys so bothered by this? I will never understand the amount of energy people expend to support things that are inherently against their best interests.

Nvidia is just that good at influencing consumers. They probably have more mind share than apple. Its crazy haha.

 

[Subyman]

Good lord people, if something doesn't work right this minute then its worthless? This is a great step forward. Hopefully by two years or so most LCDs and GPU will support the tech out of the box without having to worry about what manufacture made what.

 

[Kenmitch]

Next time start a new argument instead of necroing an old one.
-- stahlhart

Funny but true.

 

[Skurge]

Yay!

 

[Elfear]

Excellent news.

Now to decide whether it's worth picking up a 4k monitor now or wait until one appears on the market with Freesync capability?

 

[parvadomus]

Nice! looks like G-Sync will die prematurely.

 

[Despoiler]

Why not?
It's a)optional in 1.2(a) and b) it doesn't mean it works like G-Sync or shows the same result.

Like most patents: A lot is not real or only tested with simulations.

No not "why not". Standards bodies don't ratify tech or implementations that don't work. No not "like most patents." The patents process is entirely different from standards ratification. If you were right you would also be calling Anand a liar for reporting on a working demo.

Warning issued for inflammatory language.
-- stahlhart

 

[sontin]

No not "why not". Standards bodies don't ratify tech or implementations that don't work. No not "like most patents." The patents process is entirely different from standards ratification. If you were right you would also be calling Anand a liar for reporting on a working demo.

I didn't say anything about "dont work".
It's an extension to the standard which is optional. So it is not necessary to support this flag. Obviously that not every partner supports it right now - both sides.

I dont call Anand a liar. But right now there is no video which shows that Freesync is able to work with variable frametimes like G-Sync. And we are 3 months after the CES. It would be easy for AMD to provide a video.

 

[Midwayman]

I can't wait to see the demo. This will be much better than gsync if it pans out.

 

[MaestroQuark]

I can't wait to see the demo. This will be much better than gsync if it pans out.

I'm awaiting your technical explanation of this statement.

 

[tviceman]

I'm awaiting your technical explanation of this statement.

He's never seen a demo but is 100% sure it's better than G-sync because thirteen.

Warning issued for member callout.
-- stahlhart

 

[3DVagabond]

We knew this was going to happen. Good news!

I suppose that anyone who would prefer paying for it can send Jen-Hsun a check for $200 and swear to stop using the feature if they ever buy anything except an nVidia card.

Infraction issued for trolling.
-- stahlhart