[hardocp] 4 Weeks with Radeon R9 290X CrossFire
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Sounds legit..third degree burns from a GPU
Also, apparently, 290X CF is incompatible with X58 chipset motherboards? Apparently, nobody can get it to work properly.
Come on dude do not make things up.
Also, it seems the FUD about noise is JUST FUD.
I made nothing up. Kyle reached out to AMD for comment concerning X58 compatibility and they HAVE NOT RESPONDED.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1796442
More:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1796311
This has been an ongoing issue for X58 users at the H forum. AMD is apparently silent.
An article from the person you are quoting as your source said "some, not all" older x58 chipsets. You said this..
...which is not true.
...which is not true.
Oh. So 83% of users with X58 can't get CF 290X to work. Those statistics sound favorable..I mean, some not all. Gotcha. There was nothing incorrect about my statement if you read through their forums, people are having issues with it.
I wonder how many of those boards are using NF200 bridge chips?
The NF200 was very popular on high end X58 boards. There's a reason no one uses it anymore.
I personally had to sell an ASUS EONAR STX that I loved because of the bridge chips on my EVGA SR-2.
I think what we see is a few very vocal posters here and on other forums that are trying to defend their 780/Titan purchases. Honestly, sometimes I think they are arguing on forums to try and convince themselves that their GTX780 was worth $650 or their Titan that they bought was worth $1000. You can see just how good the R9 290/290X are by how hard some posters work to discredit them.
I think it truly would have been a 9700Pro/4870 type of launch if prices were lower all around. But when a $400 card from one GPU maker can give a $1000 card from the other GPU vendor everything it can handle in the benches, as an enthusiast it is hard not to get excited about that. But as a fanboy... :whiste:
I have a pair of 290s that I use for coin mining and touching the vents or the black metal part of the cooler is very painful and I'd say quite likely to inflict a minor burn if touched for more than a couple of seconds. The air coming out the back is hot enough that it's uncomfortable to hold my hand there for longer than a moment or two.
So you read through the 3 page article on his overall positive experience with R9 290X crossfire to quote the two negative things he had to say about it?
Anyway, it does appear people are having issues with crossfire and those chipsets. I'm wondering if it has something to do with the bridgeless crossfire implementation on the R9 290/X.
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DiogoDX
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Must be because the part where the hardocp say that 290X crossfire deliver better game experience than Titan SLI doesn't matter.:whiste:So you read through the 3 page article on his overall positive experience with R9 290X crossfire to quote the two negative things he had to say about it?
Based on 1.2 gaming evolved titles, both of which are sub par... Far Cry 3 stutters on just about anything, and BF4 is just a mess.
I don't agree with several of his opinions, but I also wouldn't spend a month on Far Cry 3 so we clearly have difference tastes and tolerances.
The way it is written it comes off as someone saying they're enjoying something because they want to.
We already know that the Titan at stock and the 290X at stock perform similarly. I would bring up that overclocking changes everything, and even the OC 780 far outperforms the 290X. But we'll go with stock.
So Kyle found that the similarly performing 290X was a better experience despite being hotter, louder, and having potential software issues. Oh...and having black screen issues and compatibility problems with x58 in crossfire. Alrighty. I respect his opinion and I do like HardOCP a lot, but i'd respectfully disagree with him. Even though I like his website, I don't have to agree with 100% of the opinions posted.....I know what the 290X sounds like at 55% (based on the fact that it is the same cooler as the 7970 had). It isn't quiet. Far from it. It entirely depends on what you're used to though...i'd love to see people go from a reference GK110 shroud to the 290X at 55% and say they're even remotely similar in terms of acoustics. If you go from a 6990 to a 290X, you'd find it acceptable. Because both cards are loud. Then again, some people just don't care which is cool. It's all subjective anyway.
So Kyle found that the similarly performing 290X was a better experience despite being hotter, louder, and having potential software issues. Oh...and having black screen issues and compatibility problems with x58 in crossfire. Alrighty. I respect his opinion and I do like HardOCP a lot, but i'd respectfully disagree with him. Even though I like his website, I don't have to agree with 100% of the opinions posted.....I know what the 290X sounds like at 55% (based on the fact that it is the same cooler as the 7970 had). It isn't quiet. Far from it. It entirely depends on what you're used to though...i'd love to see people go from a reference GK110 shroud to the 290X at 55% and say they're even remotely similar in terms of acoustics. If you go from a 6990 to a 290X, you'd find it acceptable. Because both cards are loud. Then again, some people just don't care which is cool. It's all subjective anyway.
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H gains points because it is transparent and open about what happens in the industry.
It is not about blasting or not blasting something. It is about the way it is blasted.
None will take you seriously if you will run in circles yelling "Yet engine, yet engine!" every time hawaii is mentioned.
It is not about blasting or not blasting something. It is about the way it is blasted.
None will take you seriously if you will run in circles yelling "Yet engine, yet engine!" every time hawaii is mentioned.
I liked this best:
"All in all, losing PhysX after going with an AMD GPU, did not end up being a check in the minus column. I guess I might kind of equate the full PhysX experience to getting a prettier girlfriend that did not live up to the last one in the performance departments...like holding an intelligent conversation."
And its very spot on in my own experience gaming on gtx and radeons. It is a sad indication of what PhysX has become, in most games, its overkill to the point of being fake, but once in awhile in some games, it does truly shine. Sadly there's not enough of the latter.
"All in all, losing PhysX after going with an AMD GPU, did not end up being a check in the minus column. I guess I might kind of equate the full PhysX experience to getting a prettier girlfriend that did not live up to the last one in the performance departments...like holding an intelligent conversation."
And its very spot on in my own experience gaming on gtx and radeons. It is a sad indication of what PhysX has become, in most games, its overkill to the point of being fake, but once in awhile in some games, it does truly shine. Sadly there's not enough of the latter.
Lol. Kyle can be an angry man. But at least the writing doesnt sound like he is in a sort of twisted pain (so is xx) and at the same time singing omfg this is the best thing ever to happen. He is quite straight about things - brent too. Like Dustin at AT.
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I really disliked that part the most, he's basically saying running games like BF4 at the lowest graphical setting is the best way to go because otherwise you're just adding "fake" realistic distractions to the screen. Which is just silly in a game like Borderlands 2 where guns shoot acid goo and you have super powers... I played through it several times in a four group co op and used high physx every time. Things blowing up isn't clean, it's messy. Go drop some mortar rounds in real life in front of a target in some dirt, then get back to me on how realistic it is to see the target plain as day without massive obstruction of dust and debris.
It's pretty obvious from the review the Kyle is about as much of a Gamer as one of my girlfriends. The way it's written, the games played, the time spent on a single title... Honestly it's an opinion, how much value you place in it is of course up to you. But even looking at his desktop monitor setup it's a poor way to do triple screen, more optimized for workflow than gaming with 100% more bar view.
It's pretty obvious from the review the Kyle is about as much of a Gamer as one of my girlfriends. The way it's written, the games played, the time spent on a single title... Honestly it's an opinion, how much value you place in it is of course up to you. But even looking at his desktop monitor setup it's a poor way to do triple screen, more optimized for workflow than gaming with 100% more bar view.
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Keysplayr
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Not likely. I've been playing BL2 MP on a GTX460 for Gits and shiggles and it plays fine with PhysX on.
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