Hard disk imaging and storage what do you know?

bigvince

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Hello all! :)


i need to put together a setup to ghost hard drive images for storage and to reimage pc's. i was thinking about getting a dedicated unit to do this sort of thing but im thinking that it would be cost prohibitive. what do you guys recommend as far as software and hardware?
 

Cable God

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I would first of all use Drive Image Pro 4.0. Storage+ PII300/or a Celery 400-533 with 64mb-128mb running NT Server with dual nic's multi-homed. Disk Space = get 2 80gb IDE hdd's one to stor on, one to do a raid0 mirror onto if the first. In network applet in control panel , choose Server under services and select "maximize for file sharing". That should do it nicely.
 

Windogg

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CableGod, I'm dissapointed. :) You called "Mirroring" "RAID0" in your post.

Sounds like an excellent config.
 

Windogg

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Cheaper solution. Get a AMD based system with on board RAID and go with 2 x 45GB IBM 75GXP drives. Run it on NT Workstation as opposed to NT Server.

BTW: What's the budget?

Windogg
 

Whitedog

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Forget NT, Raid... You need the luxury of DOS mode (explained below)

All you need:

Ghost pro 6.x
Win98
Any computer with an ATA66 controller. (Celeron's 66mhz bus will run it just as fast as Athlons 200mhz..) so a celeron computer is what you want.
100Mb NIC (no, you don't need TWO! the hard drive is the bottle neck, so doubling your network speed will be useless)
A Removable Hard disk caddy (or two) put on the seconary IDE channels.
2 large hard drives (60-80 gigs) on the primary channels.

Not always will you have hard drives, or computers you can get on the network using DOS drivers (laptops are a good example), so you'll need the caddy's to image them, or dump to an image... you WILL need them too.. trust me.

Comfigure the Primary hard drives like this.
Primary master: 2 partitions, primary partition - 2gigs, the rest secondary
Primary slave: 1 big partition.

master drive will always be drive "C" and "E" (use drive "E" as your backup)
slave drive will always be "D" (use this drive as your primary storage of images)
Just copy all your images from D to E. whenever you make a change, or create a new Image (always on drive D) just copy it over to E for backup. As little as you change your Image inventory, RAID or Mirroring is a waste of time and resources.

Any drives you put in the caddy will always be drive letter "F" or greater in the case you have a Large string of batch files you use to load/dump images, they will always work.

You can have multiple sessions of muti-cast running, one for each image you want to have access too. Have unique session names for each image (image name is best)

*********Bootdisks**************
Create several bootdiskettes, one for every type of NIC you have in your invironment.

Include lots of batch file strings to either load or dump for each multi-cast session name. Name the batch files with numbers, 1.bat, 2.bat...etc...

example: 1.bat (loads image file using multicast called dellWin98.gho)
so, instead of having to run ghost and go through all the garbage, you type 1 "enter" and watch the drive start loading.

Type up a nice text file with a menu list of all your batch files and include at the end of your autoexec.bat on the boot disk:
cls
type menu.txt

then all you do when you boot up the computer with the bootdisk, is look at your menu and and press the key for the image you want to load.

here is an example of a txt file menu to display on bootup.
*
* 1. Load Dell GX110 with Windows 98
* 2. Load Dell GX110 with Windows NT
* 3. Load Compaq EP with Windows 2000
*...etc...
* press the number for the option to load

(note, my bootdisks I use at work have a list of 21 options, and a batch file for each option)

Hope that give you an idea.
 

Windogg

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Whitedog, Norton Ghost is great. I use it alot myself. What bigvince needs is a system to store all of his images. The two hard drives are not in RAID0 fashion but RAID1 for redundancy in case one decides to goto data heaven.

I tossed together a few parts at Mwave and came up with the following for ~$800 shipped.

Duron 700 (slowest they had)
Abit A7V RAID
128MB PC133 Corsair Value RAM
2 x 45GB IBM 75GXP HDD
Cheapo 4MB Trident AGP Video
Enlight 7237 Case w/ 300W PS
Sony CD-ROM
Panasonic Floppy

I'll leave it up to you to find:
14" monitor
Keyboard
Mouse
misc cables and stuff.

Either that of find any old system lying around (P2-233, Celeron 300A) like Cablegod said and dump in a IDE RAID controlled and 2 big drives for storage.

Windogg
 

Whitedog

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Well, the Mirroring is an OK idea I guess.. I don't see it being necessary if you are good enough at keeping a copy on the second drive whenever you make changes (which you don't do very often)

BTW, I'm not an expert on IDE raid, but doesn't software raid take up lots of processor power? So in that case, you would want to get a fast duron or something.. ?? That's mostly why I recommend "Not" using raid, so you can use a slow CPU...

BTW, I am an AMD fan, but the upmost important factor here is stability.. and you Just cannot beat good ole BX for that. That's why I recommend the celeron system on a BX mobo

Also, if you have any memory laying around, use it, you don't need anymore than 64 megs... Save you a few bucks.
My ghost PC at work has 64 megs ram... and I can have 15 sessions of Multi-cast running in Windows 98.. pretty good huh?
 

bigvince

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hey winndog, whitedog

geeze! thanks for all the info you have been more than helpful, in fact you've solved my problem! thank again and feel free to throw a tech question or two my way.....





BigVince.....;)