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Happy Birthday 9700 Pro

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touchmyichi

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It seems hard to believe that this card is a year old now. Still one of the best cards on the market. I was absolutely blown away by my 9700 pro. It also started this new heated race between ATI and Nvidia. Props to Ati to making this ass kicker.
 
It wasn?t when it first came out ... it was just a bit better then the Geforce4 Ti4600 ..

1 year of driver optimizations has made it the beast it is today !
 
Originally posted by: videoclone
It wasn?t when it first came out ... it was just a bit better then the Geforce4 Ti4600 ..

1 year of driver optimizations has made it the beast it is today !
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Actually, it was quite a bit better than a Ti4600 in any AA/AF scenarios at high resolutions. Without eye candy it was (and still is) an expensive Ti4600.

Also, if I remember correctly, 9700 Pros weren't actually available until the end of September of 2002. The 9700 launched today on August 20th though, right?
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Without eye candy it was (and still is) an expensive Ti4600.
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Word. The real story, the one most people tend to overlook, is just how powerful the GF4 series cards from nVidia were. Sure, they're getting long in the tooth tech-wise (No DX9, no worthwhile AA/AF) but their raw power is impressive, even to this day. Kinda like the muscle cars from days past.
 
Can't wait to see what Ati is going to replace it with. Sorry, but the GF4 was never the equal to the 9700 Pro. It may have held a few benchies with-out AA and/or AF, but the few it held were more like a dead heat, and the ones it lost were terrible defeats.

Besides, the Ti4600 was nothing more than an expensive Ti4200, not a 9700 Pro.
 
Originally posted by: Killrose
Can't wait to see what Ati is going to replace it with. Sorry, but the GF4 was never the equal to the 9700 Pro. It may have held a few benchies with-out AA and/or AF, but the few it held were more like a dead heat, and the ones it lost were terrible defeats.

Besides, the Ti4600 was nothing more than an expensive Ti4200, not a 9700 Pro.
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No it isn't. A Ti4200 does not perform the same as a Ti4600 in any video card bound (non-CPU limited) game. A Ti4600 performs like a 9700 Pro in most every game at mid-range resolutions and without AA/AF enabled. Therefore, a 9700 Pro is an expensive Ti4600 for users that don't utilize AA/AF and don't play above 1024x768.
 
Incredible card still. Happy birthday (I love mine, maybe I'll buy a double PCI AGP fan combo as present)
 
Should be very thankful it is still a prime card. Hell, you paid
$350-450 for it right? for 400 dollars it should at least last a year if not 2.

Once I see charts on how the RV350 performs on HL2, I'm then hoping to keep the 9800 for at least 2 years.
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Killrose
Can't wait to see what Ati is going to replace it with. Sorry, but the GF4 was never the equal to the 9700 Pro. It may have held a few benchies with-out AA and/or AF, but the few it held were more like a dead heat, and the ones it lost were terrible defeats.

Besides, the Ti4600 was nothing more than an expensive Ti4200, not a 9700 Pro.
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No it isn't. A Ti4200 does not perform the same as a Ti4600 in any video card bound (non-CPU limited) game. A Ti4600 performs like a 9700 Pro in most every game at mid-range resolutions and without AA/AF enabled. Therefore, a 9700 Pro is an expensive Ti4600 for users that don't utilize AA/AF and don't play above 1024x768.
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I was actually refering to the fact that most Ti4200's will do Ti4600 speeds when overclocked, therefore a Ti4600 was an expensive Ti4200. 🙂

And a Ti4600 Does not perform like a 9700 Pro at mid level resoulutions if you are compareing one, maybe two benches, OK, but 8 out of ten times, the 4600 is badly beaten.

 
Funny to see this post, last night I looked at my receipt for this card and 9-11-03 will be one year old for mine hehe.

The fan died on it yesterday but thats fixed now with a Vantec and she is as sweet as the day I put her in, I had a G4 TI4600 before it and the Radeon was hands down better. This was the first card I bought since building comps that gave me the FPS it claimed to give.

Look how pretty my coolers looks in blue.


Pretty Blue awwwwww
 
Originally posted by: Evan Lieb
Originally posted by: Killrose
Can't wait to see what Ati is going to replace it with. Sorry, but the GF4 was never the equal to the 9700 Pro. It may have held a few benchies with-out AA and/or AF, but the few it held were more like a dead heat, and the ones it lost were terrible defeats.

Besides, the Ti4600 was nothing more than an expensive Ti4200, not a 9700 Pro.
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No it isn't. A Ti4200 does not perform the same as a Ti4600 in any video card bound (non-CPU limited) game. A Ti4600 performs like a 9700 Pro in most every game at mid-range resolutions and without AA/AF enabled. Therefore, a 9700 Pro is an expensive Ti4600 for users that don't utilize AA/AF and don't play above 1024x768.
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And it's a good thing nVidia kept trying to charge just as much all the same. I remember the 4600 was still outragously priced $300+ compared to what a 9700/9700 Pro could do for the money charged for those boards. This is why the 4200 was and still is considered a winner in its category, one of very few nVidia "winners" considering the advantages the 9500 Pro/9600 Pro and 9700/9800 have over their nVidia competetors, nothing from ATI can really compete with a $100 128MB 4200 that has a damn good chance of being tweeked to 4600 performance.

Sure the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 was a fast piece of hardware but it certainly wasn't as much of a winner as the 9700 Pro was for what each achieved. Several 9700 Pro reviewers remarked that the 9700 Pro was perhaps the first high end board that could do everything you wanted and then some, ie high resolutions and eyecandy, something that had always been far too taxing even for the fastest cards on popular games to maintain ideal performance. Hell, honostly I think the GeForce 3 was a bigger thing than the GeForce 4 Ti if we're talking about "recent" video cards that made a big change. Even the GF4 Tis are merely beefed up GF3s and if you bought a GF3 well over 2 years ago chances are it could have lasted you up to this very day as GF3 performance certainly isn't a slouch especially compared to today's budget solutions (ie 5200 and 9200)
 
i got mine the first day it came out for $340 (s/h and tax included), i'm very happy that this card will go atleast 18 months without needing to be upgraded
 
I tip my hat to my trusty Radeon 9700 Pro. Honestly, I was blown away by it when I picked it up almost a year ago and to this day the card still amazes me.

It wasn?t when it first came out ... it was just a bit better then the Geforce4 Ti4600 ..
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Uh no, the Ti4600 was ripped a new one when the eye candy was cranked up, especially when AF was enabled. That was the case back then and is still the case now.

The real story, the one most people tend to overlook, is just how powerful the GF4 series cards from nVidia were.
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Compared to a 9700 Pro they are absolute snails.

Sure, they're getting long in the tooth tech-wise (No DX9, no worthwhile AA/AF) but their raw power is impressive, even to this day. Kinda like the muscle cars from days past.
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A car that only competes with other cars in residential traffic ain't no muscle car. But put the cars on the race track and then you'll quickly see which car is the real muscle car.
 
These are video cards people, not your sons and daughters.. Get some grippage will ya!!!!.

GM
 
Mine turns a year on 9/17/03. I found it in the 50% off bin at a software store for $200.00 (or 50% off) becuase as the clerk indicated it was a 3rd level card that was out of production, and not as fast as the newer models (punk). He had to force the 50% off becuase they where having computer problems (ha!), and the scanner was not working correctly.

I glowed for a week, I had never been so lucky. So yes, I am personally attached to my 9700PRO.

Morale of the story is: Buy what you know, from someone who does not know what they are selling 🙂

 
wow.. didn't know it was a year old already,
I got it when it cost about 350 retail from googlegear..

since then I have been really happy with its performance..

playing games at 6X AA and 16X AF without lags...
I don't see a reason to get a 9800 Pro..
 
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