Handgun people, isocoles or weaver stance??

[justint]

I was taught to use Isocoles from way back as it allows you to move much more naturally than a bladed weaver stance. Anyone prefer weaver?

 

[KingNothing]

Just out of curiousity, what's the difference? I couldn't find any diagrams on google for the isocole stance.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Not much difference in real shooting situations by civilians.

I can draw with one hand and put two bullets on a man sized target at 15 feet better than 90% of the time. That is the kind of pratice that is useful for conceal carry applications.

Hopper

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Not much difference in real shooting situations by civilians.

I can draw with one hand and put two bullets on a man sized target at 15 feet better than 90% of the time. That is the kind of pratice that is useful for conceal carry applications.

Hopper

For civillian applications maybe no, but when you are trying to control somebody freedom of movement is pretty important. It would probably also be much better in home defense as well.

 

[jteef]

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Not much difference in real shooting situations by civilians.

I can draw with one hand and put two bullets on a man sized target at 15 feet better than 90% of the time. That is the kind of pratice that is useful for conceal carry applications.

Hopper

just to others who might like to try to practice this... It is very easy to shoot yourself in the leg when you are practicing quickdraw.

jt

 

[brtspears2]

Isocoles for me, I like to shoot quick and accurate.

 

[justint]

Originally posted by: jteef

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Not much difference in real shooting situations by civilians.

I can draw with one hand and put two bullets on a man sized target at 15 feet better than 90% of the time. That is the kind of pratice that is useful for conceal carry applications.

Hopper

just to others who might like to try to practice this... It is very easy to shoot yourself in the leg when you are practicing quickdraw.

jt

Uhhh yeah. Remember to Index.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: jteef
just to others who might like to try to practice this... It is very easy to shoot yourself in the leg when you are practicing quickdraw.

jt

It isn't a quickdraw, that isn't the idea. Speed is less imporant than control. Speed looks cool in the movies, but without control you might as well be shooting blanks...

Better to put one bullet into your target than 10 bullets all around your target.

Hopper

 

[jteef]

I just mentioned it because a friend of mine did shoot himself in the leg

jt

 

[GagHalfrunt]

You can be more accurate and handle recoil better with Weaver, but only if you do it right and practice a lot. If you get lazy and forget to push properly with the right arm you lose all ability to deal with recoil and you can bury the hammer in your forehead. If you're not sure or don't intend to practice enough to make Weaver second-nature, keep it simple.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: jteef
I just mentioned it because a friend of mine did shoot himself in the leg

jt

I did that

Not due to a quick draw but carelessness/faulty firearm.

Aren't all military/LEO/etc taught isocoles now? I want to say they are.

Kingnothing, weaver (IIRC) is more like a golf stance, facing 90degrees from your feet. Slimer profile.

The triangle looks like a...triangle...from above. Feet shoulder length apart, pistol at arms length straight out in front of you.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can be more accurate and handle recoil better with Weaver, but only if you do it right and practice a lot. If you get lazy and forget to push properly with the right arm you lose all ability to deal with recoil and you can bury the hammer in your forehead. If you're not sure or don't intend to practice enough to make Weaver second-nature, keep it simple.

Don't mostost IPSC and Tri-gun guys use the isocoles for their pistol shooting?

 

[Howard]

I like doggy-style myself, but you do have a tendency to "shoot" yourself in the face.

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can be more accurate and handle recoil better with Weaver, but only if you do it right and practice a lot. If you get lazy and forget to push properly with the right arm you lose all ability to deal with recoil and you can bury the hammer in your forehead. If you're not sure or don't intend to practice enough to make Weaver second-nature, keep it simple.

I'm sorry, but I just disagree. I've heard stories of people who shoot a pistol and cant control it and it ends up with Colt on the forhead or something.

But, its NEVER happened to me. Granted, I may not exhibit robot like control, but I havent found a pistol yet I cant shoot 1 hnaded. I'm not a big guy (160 pounds) and I've shot some big pistols (44, 357 Magnum...)

Have you really ever seen someone shoot a pistol they simply couldnt handle?? Maybe I'm just Billy the Kid reincarnated....

 

[Shockwave]

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Not much difference in real shooting situations by civilians.

I can draw with one hand and put two bullets on a man sized target at 15 feet better than 90% of the time. That is the kind of pratice that is useful for conceal carry applications.

Hopper

But, can you do it under pressure? THATS when it counts. I think your 90% would go way downhill in a "situation", and those other 10%, that could be innocent bystanders.

Granted, you'd do better then most other people, but still something to think about.

 

[MooseKnuckle]

I use the Chapman stance, it's like the Weaver but a more narrow stance. But, I also hold my support(weak) arm grip a little lower for better gun support. I have better recoil control with the grip extension mag, I kinda pull down on the finger groove thingy. It's the Mooseknuckle stance, it's comfortable and it works for me.

 

[Walleye]

Originally posted by: Shockwave

Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
You can be more accurate and handle recoil better with Weaver, but only if you do it right and practice a lot. If you get lazy and forget to push properly with the right arm you lose all ability to deal with recoil and you can bury the hammer in your forehead. If you're not sure or don't intend to practice enough to make Weaver second-nature, keep it simple.

I'm sorry, but I just disagree. I've heard stories of people who shoot a pistol and cant control it and it ends up with Colt on the forhead or something.

But, its NEVER happened to me. Granted, I may not exhibit robot like control, but I havent found a pistol yet I cant shoot 1 hnaded. I'm not a big guy (160 pounds) and I've shot some big pistols (44, 357 Magnum...)

Have you really ever seen someone shoot a pistol they simply couldnt handle?? Maybe I'm just Billy the Kid reincarnated....

a single shot 30.06 pistol. yeah, they're out there. try to hold onto that beast.

 

[PsychoAndy]

Edit: nevermind