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[SonicIce]

Im all for guns but you don't need to carry one everywhere this isn't the old west

 

[Killerme33]

Best part of the article:

Originally posted by: Analog
Heather Reed, 37, of Middleville, an unemployed animal-control officer, was among about a half dozen women who participated in Thursday's event.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
Im all for guns but you don't need to carry one everywhere this isn't the old west

As far as I've seen the estimated highest homicide rate in the Old West is estimated at 66 per 100,000 (in a single area, most were no where near that high). Washington DC had a homicide rate of 81 per 100,000. In other words, it's actually more dangerous in some places today than it ever was anywhere in the old west.

That's just homicides by the way, if you include all violent crime it's even worse, and if you expand it to all crime it's that much worse again.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Perknose
Lol, my previous neighbor next door used to open carry 24/7. You'd see him mowing his lawn with his .22 revolver sticking out of the back pocket of his jeans. I'd always ask him, "Joe, you got that safety on?" *

He made my wife Jessie nervous at first, but I got to know him pretty weill, and he was just a true down home country boy with an open, friendly heart -- kind of shy, actually -- who grew up on a farm and may well have never been to Philadelphia (one hour south) in his life.





* And, yes, I KNOW revolvers don't have safties.

Wrong, they do have safeties. They (a lot) have internal locks and Smith and Wesson just came out with a grip safety on a revolver.

Interesting, I had no idea, but I looked it up and it seems that the Centennial (the S&W with the grip safety) is indeed re-issued as the Model 40; pretty cool.

I don't usually count a lock as a "safety" since you really can't carry a locked gun (well, you can, but it's essentially useless for a rapidly-developing situation if you have to use a key to un-lock the internal mechanism). I usually only think about manual safeties, as on a 1911 or a Walther PPK.

ZV

 

[adairusmc]

I carry open when I am out fishing or in the woods (most of the time I spend in the woods I am never more than a step away from a rifle). Most of the time I carry concealed though, even at work.

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

So basically you are saying it's ok for a low life piece of shit to beat be into a coma and leave me on a respirator for the rest of my life, but I shouldn't be able to stop him from doingthat to me?

Wow, you fail at comprehension. I'm pretty sure anyone still means ANYONE. Hopefully you're a better judge when you're gunning down that next criminal at the putt putt fun house.

I'm not sure what's worse, the criminal with intent or the retard thinking he's going to save the day by squeezing a few off.

You know what's funny about all of this... if tomorrow a scientist invented personal shield generator, that was guaranteed to protect anyone from small arms fire, you jack offs would still be out there claiming you needed to carry a gun around in public to "protect yourself".

 

[imported_Imp]

The ones that carry open I would be least concerned about. It's the ones that hide it that I concern me cause it gives the impression that they themselves are conealing it for some ulterior motive.

 

[JakwoW]

Originally posted by: 43st

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

So basically you are saying it's ok for a low life piece of shit to beat be into a coma and leave me on a respirator for the rest of my life, but I shouldn't be able to stop him from doingthat to me?

Wow, you fail at comprehension. I'm pretty sure anyone still means ANYONE. Hopefully you're a better judge when you're gunning down that next criminal at the putt putt fun house.

I'm not sure what's worse, the criminal with intent or the retard thinking he's going to save the day by squeezing a few off.

You know what's funny about all of this... if tomorrow a scientist invented personal shield generator, that was guaranteed to protect anyone from small arms fire, you jack offs would still be out there claiming you needed to carry a gun around in public to "protect yourself".

Hell yes I would. It'd be even more fun with a shield!

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: l0cke
Sometimes you will see someone open carrying a POS gun and that makes me worried. Or people who seem to think the best open carry weapon is a 10" single action revolver in an old style holster.

That's just a badass carry. BA carry should be legal around the world!

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: 43st

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

So basically you are saying it's ok for a low life piece of shit to beat be into a coma and leave me on a respirator for the rest of my life, but I shouldn't be able to stop him from doingthat to me?

Wow, you fail at comprehension. I'm pretty sure anyone still means ANYONE. Hopefully you're a better judge when you're gunning down that next criminal at the putt putt fun house.

I'm not sure what's worse, the criminal with intent or the retard thinking he's going to save the day by squeezing a few off.

You know what's funny about all of this... if tomorrow a scientist invented personal shield generator, that was guaranteed to protect anyone from small arms fire, you jack offs would still be out there claiming you needed to carry a gun around in public to "protect yourself".

What's worse is people like you who lack critical thinking skills.

 

[FallenHero]

Originally posted by: 43st

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

So basically you are saying it's ok for a low life piece of shit to beat be into a coma and leave me on a respirator for the rest of my life, but I shouldn't be able to stop him from doingthat to me?

Wow, you fail at comprehension. I'm pretty sure anyone still means ANYONE. Hopefully you're a better judge when you're gunning down that next criminal at the putt putt fun house.

I'm not sure what's worse, the criminal with intent or the retard thinking he's going to save the day by squeezing a few off.

You know what's funny about all of this... if tomorrow a scientist invented personal shield generator, that was guaranteed to protect anyone from small arms fire, you jack offs would still be out there claiming you needed to carry a gun around in public to "protect yourself".

According to your logic, the police should not be able to carry either.

 

[KK]

Depends on the person, if its some gangbanger, then I wouldn't feel safe. Other than that, I would probably feel more safe knowing that if some thug was stirring up trouble the guy with the gun could terminate the problem.

 

[KK]

Originally posted by: 43st

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

So basically you are saying it's ok for a low life piece of shit to beat be into a coma and leave me on a respirator for the rest of my life, but I shouldn't be able to stop him from doingthat to me?

Wow, you fail at comprehension. I'm pretty sure anyone still means ANYONE. Hopefully you're a better judge when you're gunning down that next criminal at the putt putt fun house.

I'm not sure what's worse, the criminal with intent or the retard thinking he's going to save the day by squeezing a few off.

You know what's funny about all of this... if tomorrow a scientist invented personal shield generator, that was guaranteed to protect anyone from small arms fire, you jack offs would still be out there claiming you needed to carry a gun around in public to "protect yourself".

personal shields, come on now dude, get back to your star trek and don't bother us with your presence again tonight.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: 43st
Anyone who self appoints themselves with the right to take another persons life is a problem, regardless if they flaunt it in public or not.

People like you are scum.

 

[sygyzy]

"Their No. 1 mission seems to be making other people nervous," he said. "That's a little childish. Of all the issues that need volunteerism in this country, in Michigan, in Detroit, you'd think people would find a more useful way to use their volunteer hours than walking around showing they have a gun."

I think this comment hits the nail on the head. I don't care that they do, but why do they need to?

 

[Descartes]

No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

Its ok! The police were slightly preoccupied at those times, but for us, they'll be there to protect us...

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

Its ok! The police were slightly preoccupied at those times, but for us, they'll be there to protect us...

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

 

[BeauJangles]

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

How does the violent crime in Atlanta effect violent crime in its suburbs? A high-school friend of mine lived in Malden, which is across the river (stream, really) from Mattapan (the worst area in Boston). There was almost no violent crime in Malden, despite bordering such a terrible area.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: Kelvrick

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

Its ok! The police were slightly preoccupied at those times, but for us, they'll be there to protect us...

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

What's it like to be a human bumper sticker?

 

[PrinceofWands]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: PrinceofWands

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: Descartes
No, not really worried though it is a bit strange to see. I saw a guy carrying in a Whole Foods out in the suburbs of Atlanta, an area with almost no violent crime.

these comments never make sense to me. how many times have we seen bad stuff happen to people in areas that are "safe"? maybe the area he was in at the time was "safe" but what if he goes through areas that aren't? The law says you can't carry a gun onto school grounds. so schools must be safe havens, right? gee, how many school shootings have there been in the last few years?

Do you think criminals only work in "unsafe"/slum areas? I'm sure the best loot is found in the slums...

What's even better:

Atlanta crime report jan-jul '07
Homicide 77
Rape 86
Robbery 1943
Agg. Assault 2471
Burglary 4628


....

Must be some new definition of 'almost no violent crime' I wasn't previously aware of.

That report means that in one full year there are as many victims of violent crime in Atlanta as there are people in my town.

How does the violent crime in Atlanta effect violent crime in its suburbs? A high-school friend of mine lived in Malden, which is across the river (stream, really) from Mattapan (the worst area in Boston). There was almost no violent crime in Malden, despite bordering such a terrible area.

While it's true that in localized crime areas there really is a difference between one neighborhood and the next, people seldom exist solely in one area. They have to go in to other areas (or through them) for various reasons and if crime is that high overall there is going to be at least a little spillover. The point is that there's probably a good reason to carry in general even if in one instance he's spotted in a low-crime area.

 

[Baked]

Originally posted by: KK
Depends on the person, if its some gangbanger, then I wouldn't feel safe. Other than that, I would probably feel more safe knowing that if some thug was stirring up trouble the guy with the gun could terminate the problem.

Funny how all the school massacres and most public and work place shootings were committed by people you thought were normal.

 

[judasmachine]

Back in rural TX it didn't bother me at all, as I knew those guys shot straight, here in urban FL, it scares the bejeezuz out of me, cause they all look whacked out.