Han Solo/Indiana Jones/Jack Ryan - It's time to stop

highland145

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Thought this was going to be a discussion that included Humphrey Bogart.

Leaving more than disappointed.
 

Exterous

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It took me awhile to remember the old Tom Clancy movie with the new Amazon Jack Ryan. I was confuzled for a bit
 

OccamsToothbrush

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Good luck getting any senior citizen to give up a license voluntarily. Pilots license, drivers license, barbers license, whatever. The only way to get them to stop is to make them stop.
 

Craig234

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Good luck getting any senior citizen to give up a license voluntarily. Pilots license, drivers license, barbers license, whatever. The only way to get them to stop is to make them stop.

First, that's wrong. Sometimes they don't and sometimes they do. Second, how do we get young idiots to give up theirs? How many people driving recklessly are young guys? 98%?
 
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OccamsToothbrush

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First, that's wrong. Sometimes they don't and sometimes they do. Second, how do we get young idiots to give up theirs? How many people driving recklessly are young guys? 98%?

No. It's more like 75/25 or maybe 80/20 depending on whose figues you believe. But men drive a lot more miles than women and when the figures are adjusted for that it's closer to 60/40 per mile. But hey, feel free to keep pulling numbers out of your ass. Women are also more likely to crash on a mile-to-mile basis than men are.

Also factoring in is that young drivers get better every day and old drivers get worse every day.

And yeah, young idiots should lose their licenses too. Drivers licenses are way too easy to get and way too hard to lose.
 
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BUTCH1

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Good luck getting any senior citizen to give up a license voluntarily. Pilots license, drivers license, barbers license, whatever. The only way to get them to stop is to make them stop.
Why you little...I was changing out points/plugs in my '65 Ford Galaxy 20 years before you were a crumb-snatcher!. Now you're saying I can't drive anymore?, go to hell you vicious punk!...No, J/K, :D This AM on the way into work a flat-bed truck pulling a Bobcat pulled over on the shoulder on my side with high-beams on, two other cars were heading down our street as well, unknown to me a guy had gotten out of the truck to go into a home and I missed hitting him by inches. As I get older, (63), I've noticed it takes my eyes longer to adjust to sudden changes in bright lights, guy leaving truck must have thought he was easily seen, he was not and it almost cost him.
 

Craig234

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No. It's more like 75/25 or maybe 80/20 depending on whose figues you believe. But men drive a lot more miles than women and when the figures are adjusted for that it's closer to 60/40 per mile. But hey, feel free to keep pulling numbers out of your ass. Women are also more likely to crash on a mile-to-mile basis than men are.

I didn't say it was 50-50. You said NO senior gives up a license, I said you're wrong, you want to move the goalposts. You want actual numbers on gender? The topic here was reckless driving, not crashes, more goalpost moving.

"Many more men than women die each year in motor vehicle crashes. Men typically drive more miles than women and more often engage in risky driving practices including not using safety belts, driving while impaired by alcohol, and speeding. Crashes involving male drivers often are more severe than those involving female drivers. "

Yes, men drive more than women - but as *3.4* times as likely to get a ticket for reckless driving, and 3.1 times as likely for DUI.

Men were killed 2.5 per 100 million miles, women 1.7 per 100 million miles.

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Craig234

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Why you little...I was changing out points/plugs in my '65 Ford Galaxy 20 years before you were a crumb-snatcher!. Now you're saying I can't drive anymore?, go to hell you vicious punk!...No, J/K, :D This AM on the way into work a flat-bed truck pulling a Bobcat pulled over on the shoulder on my side with high-beams on, two other cars were heading down our street as well, unknown to me a guy had gotten out of the truck to go into a home and I missed hitting him by inches. As I get older, (63), I've noticed it takes my eyes longer to adjust to sudden changes in bright lights, guy leaving truck must have thought he was easily seen, he was not and it almost cost him.

Accidents are way too easy. On a pretty busy street I didn't think there was a crosswalk near my house, at night, I was driving. There were blinking yellow lights on the side of the street, but there are lots of lights. I was thinking red matters, and ignoring yellow. That's for things like tow trucks. Some cars were slowed, but cars slow and stop for U-turns and traffic. Basically I was fine to keep going. As I did, I realized they had put a crosswalk there, and the yellow lights I hadn't remembered seeing before that didn't register much were real warning lights that there were pedestrians crossing. I didn't hit them but could have. And clearly it'd have been my fault. There are enough pedestrians that cross recklessly, against lights, and don't even look for traffic, I'm surprised there aren't more.